LoliPunch Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Ofc we have some people who don't want to believe that there is something more being shown by the two swords and they think that they are both regular Nikana, but seriously there is a possibilty those those two swords are the same exact sword, what I am meaning is that the one Teshin has is the same exact one, not a copy of it, that Umbra pulls from the stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Wyrmius_Prime said: Nikana's base colors are the exact same. People are once again making a way too big of a number on this. No wonder why every single thing ends up being disappointing when people start building hype from nothing. Just stop... Way too big number? It's not called a theory for nothing you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 If we can finally join Teshin, I'm doing it without a hint of hesitation. I just can't trust Lotus anymore. She's a sentient that kept the operators a secret from us, and intended to keep it that way. For what? What motivations could she possibly have to hide that? At least Teshin is willing to teach us about ourselves and what we're capable of. Hopefully we can finally join the true teacher. (Plus his voice is epic, I would very much like to hear him say "Grineer, weak-minded fools. Prepare yourself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Plus, I don't think our Nikana has that red/crimson color on the blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Dax Soldier dying, something something Ballas takes advantage. Huehuehuehuehue in gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sajochi said: If we can finally join Teshin, I'm doing it without a hint of hesitation. I just can't trust Lotus anymore. She's a sentient that kept the operators a secret from us, and intended to keep it that way. For what? What motivations could she possibly have to hide that? At least Teshin is willing to teach us about ourselves and what we're capable of. Hopefully we can finally join the true teacher. (Plus his voice is epic, I would very much like to hear him say "Grineer, weak-minded fools. Prepare yourself." Lotus hid our Operator because she feared that we could become like the Stalker, she said it in the Second Dream quest. Edited July 17, 2017 by Xenox_Ilz-ot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railgun Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, lukinu_u said: It's just a Nikana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryme Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Xenox_Ilz-ot said: Lotus hid our Operator because she feared that we could become like the Stalker, she said it in the Second Dream quest. Please link a video or the actual excerpt where she explicitly said that, because I don't remember those being her exact words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoliPunch Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'm looking at it like this. With the Eidolon puddle they had everyone focusing on the water and hiding the open world. Maybe with the Umbra trailer they have us all focusing on "The Sacrifice" and "Excal Umbra" part and not the line "If you could trade, would you? Surely." Part, I have another theory in this, Teshin knew the location of the Grineer queens, perhaps Teshin and Lotus know something more about Margulis that Lotus isn't telling us like always. Hell maybe it even has something to do with the other door in our ship XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Ryme said: Please link a video or the actual excerpt where she explicitly said that, because I don't remember those being her exact words. Yeah if you want, but later I need to shower & eat now :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1tsyB1tsyN1nj4 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Xenox_Ilz-ot said: But you said it, destroyed. I'm talking about the fact that you said Sentients can reconstruct their bodies, which they can't. They can restructure themselves to adapt, but they can't heal from any damage they've taken unless they take another Sentients core or pass their damage on to another one, and we've only seen their combat drones do that. We'll just keep beating Hunhows conscious until we can capture or destroy it completely if he survived the Octavia quest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmaxys Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 So, what do you think the Umbra sacrifice will be? Personally I do not have a whole lot of ideas, so I'd like to hear your opinions. Please keep it civil. You can disagree with others, but please do not flame someone for their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorMaximus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 "All missions to the Origin system required a sacrifice. Me and my kind become barren when crossing the gap. It is the one flaw that we never overcame." -Lotus "If you could trade, would you? Surely. But all miracles require sacrifice. For their life: yours." -Ballas "Natah was the daughter, until I destroyed her. Now I am the Lotus. Now I am the mother." -Lotus What if we think outside the box?; what if we think beyond?; What conjectures can we reach? Just mumbling... We now know (after the chains of Harrow) that Natah molded herself into the Lotus following Margulis as a model... "For their life: yours". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rixuel Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 You sacrifice regular Excalibur maybe :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmaxys Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Rixuel said: You sacrifice regular Excalibur maybe :P I was actually thinking of that at one point, but I though it's not gonna be anything materialistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45neo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, HadesGamingPL said: So, what do you think the Umbra sacrifice will be? Personally I do not have a whole lot of ideas, so I'd like to hear your opinions. I think people are over thinking things. I think sacrifice is just the title and has all to do with the story of Excalibur umbra (and potentially all other warframes) and less to do with an actual in game mechanic like sacrificing something of ours to get Excalibur umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)DS Monkfish Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 It won't be this, but i'd love it if it was - Umbra is a Sentient version of an Operator, which can only be installed if your Operator sacrifices him/herself to power it up. I hate my operator. Into the puppy grinder with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfDarkShadow Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 People seem to take this 'sacrifice' bit quite literally (which is totally cool), but knowing how DE runs, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if its something much more figurative; or something to do with the Operators personal struggles and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmaxys Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, 45neo said: I think people are over thinking things. I think sacrifice is just the title and has all to do with the story of Excalibur umbra (and potentially all other warframes) and less to do with an actual in game mechanic like sacrificing something of ours to get Excalibur umbra. Yes, that is another possibility. I'd also like to hear you speculate about what sacrifice made umbra in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Magician_NG Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, HadesGamingPL said: So, what do you think the Umbra sacrifice will be? Personally I do not have a whole lot of ideas, so I'd like to hear your opinions. Please keep it civil. You can disagree with others, but please do not flame someone for their opinion. After Excalibur (quest reward) every umbra frame after that would require a player to sacrifice a stock frame and a prime frame for that particular frame's umbra variant. Want Trinity Umbra? Sack a stock Trinity and a Trinity Prime as a part of Trinity Umbra's build cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmaxys Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, (PS4)Magician_NG said: After Excalibur (quest reward) every umbra frame after that would require a player to sacrifice a stock frame and a prime frame for that particular frame's umbra variant. Want Trinity Umbra? Sack a stock Trinity and a Trinity Prime as a part of Trinity Umbra's build cost. Welp, if it's something literal as a sacrifice and not lore things, that sounds like an okay way to handle it, except for if I wanted Loki Umbra and didnt want to spend 300 plat. EDIT: Spelling errors. Edited July 17, 2017 by HadesGamingPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobistober Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) People are taking "sacrifice" way too literal. There would be rioting in the streets if DE required sacrificing another one of your warframes for Umbra. I imagine "sacrifice" has to do with the inception of Umbra, not what we literally have to do to obtain him. Edited July 17, 2017 by Jobistober 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmaxys Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Jobistober said: People are taking "sacrifice" way too literal. There would be rioting in the streets if DE required sacrificing another one of your warframes for Umbra. I imagine "sacrifice" has to do with the inception of Umbra, not what we literally have to do to obtain him. Like I said, I also expect it to be something more lore-oriented and not literally sacrificing an item from your inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)abbacephas Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 You must offer a blood sacrifice. You will slaughter your most prized Kubrow or Kavat upon the altar of RNGesus and offer a burnt offering in the hopes that RNGesus will be pleased and bless you with Umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmaxys Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, (PS4)abbacephas said: You must offer a blood sacrifice. You will slaughter your most prized Kubrow or Kavat upon the altar of RNGesus and offer a burnt offering in the hopes that RNGesus will be pleased and bless you with Umbra. Most prized Kubrow? I honestly don't think its actually going to need items sacrificed, maybe a quest item we find during the quest, but thats all. Edited July 17, 2017 by HadesGamingPL Clarified a few things that might have been confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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