tocorro Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Those "ghosts" produced with Ballistica Prime charged shot are so cool! They (in my opinion) look what Shadows of the Dead should look like: If there would be a poll to replace Shadows of the Dead with Ballisticas "Ghosts" - I'd vote YES! (they're so much easier to discern from enemies in even the heaviest fights). And how do you guys like those "ghosts" ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkvold Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Honestly, these ghosts are great-looking. I really wish SotD's shadows were modelled on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That does seem much more appropriate to nekros than the ballistica..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Arkvold said: Honestly, these ghosts are great-looking. I really wish SotD's shadows were modelled on them. They wouldn't be shadows though, those are ghastly ghosts :P I really like the Ballistica effect in all seriousness though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That actually looks really good and wouldn't mind Nekros having that for Shadows of Dead, it would make it so much simpler to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avynire Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 How long the duration of balistica ghost stay up, or they are base on health? So now if we combine with necros shadow of the dead we will get an army of the dead, cool. I think DE want to make nekros shadow of the dead as zombies like from nekros P trailer, yet it called shadow so yea this ghost is quite great as nekros Sotd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exHFerBD Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, Avynire said: How long the duration of balistica ghost stay up, or they are base on health? So now if we combine with necros shadow of the dead we will get an army of the dead, cool. I think DE want to make nekros shadow of the dead as zombies like from nekros P trailer, yet it called shadow so yea this ghost is quite great as nekros Sotd. From Wikia they last for 7 seconds no matter the health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintaro Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Quite cool to see but i wonder what pushed them to make this feature? Prime weapons are mostly known for general upgrades than unique mechanics. Edited August 30, 2017 by Mintaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mintaro said: Quit cool to see but i wonder what pushed them to make this feature? Prime weapons are mostly known for general upgrades than unique mechanics. Because otherwise everything just becomes numbers I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintaro Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, NightmareT12 said: Because otherwise everything just becomes numbers I guess. Yeah but like i thought tgat was the syndicates role to offer unique features to weapons or the rathuum and index mods. Not against it just makes me curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 minute ago, NightmareT12 said: Because otherwise everything just becomes numbers I guess. Yup. I think in a fairly recent devstream Scott said he didn't like releasing variant after variant that was just basically a reskin that was either pure power creep, or just a really boring sidegrade (as in just a different skin, slightly different stats). He was getting sick of it, which was part of the reason we haven't seen so many new prismas and wraiths and stuff lately. Weapons like Cernos Prime, Ballistica Prime and others are definitely a new trend they seem to be going for, to avoid the same old deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 And it's a nice change to add unique features in prime variance instead of plain stat-upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 4 hours ago, tocorro said: They (in my opinion) look what Shadows of the Dead should look like Shadows should be inverted colors, or different glows. And certain effects should be outright changed. Disruptors are always annoying to have as allies. And the opsrey balls create the same blue effect which can be confused with other opsreys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LascarCapable Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I'm spooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleBomber Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Tesseract7777 said: Yup. I think in a fairly recent devstream Scott said he didn't like releasing variant after variant that was just basically a reskin that was either pure power creep, or just a really boring sidegrade (as in just a different skin, slightly different stats). He was getting sick of it, which was part of the reason we haven't seen so many new prismas and wraiths and stuff lately. Weapons like Cernos Prime, Ballistica Prime and others are definitely a new trend they seem to be going for, to avoid the same old deal. It's an admirable mindset, but in this particular case I don't think anyone was ever worried about the Ballistica causing power creep. Silent non-thrown secondaries are not a particularly oversaturated supply right now, so a strong one worthy for higher level stealth play would probably be well received even without a unique passive (one that ironically kills it as a stealth weapon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Shadow of the dead is supposed to be zombies, meaning they should have physical form, not astral form like ghost. This is different, tho i think that the new nekros deluxe will be ghost based theme, so this fits more to his deluxe skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, PurpleBomber said: (one that ironically kills it as a stealth weapon). Ah yes, now i cant level it up using the stealth solo strat... Dammit Same goes with Rakta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSpinDash Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Honestly, I wish the new special perks they give to Prime weapons were given to the vanilla version as well, or even the entire weapon class in some cases. The Primes can still have an amplified version of that perk. But the improved combo counter for example would help set the Claw-type melee weapons apart from, say, swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodofWiFi Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 spooky 4 me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)watt4hem Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 hours ago, PurpleBomber said: It's an admirable mindset, but in this particular case I don't think anyone was ever worried about the Ballistica causing power creep. Silent non-thrown secondaries are not a particularly oversaturated supply right now, so a strong one worthy for higher level stealth play would probably be well received even without a unique passive (one that ironically kills it as a stealth weapon). True, but still, it doens't change the fact that a few stat buffs would be boring for a new weapon. I really like the way they're handling new stuff tbh, more unique weapons~ I mean, look at the nikana series, they have the old 'buff the new one' model and all people use are drgaon nikana, tehn the prime once it was out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xgomme Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 14 hours ago, tocorro said: Those "ghosts" produced with Ballistica Prime charged shot are so cool! They (in my opinion) look what Shadows of the Dead should look like: If there would be a poll to replace Shadows of the Dead with Ballisticas "Ghosts" - I'd vote YES! (they're so much easier to discern from enemies in even the heaviest fights). And how do you guys like those "ghosts" ? Imo they moslty look like SPECTERS should look.... (I said the same for void corrupted tho) Specters is one of the less "readable" thing, we just spawn an eximus with no special aura. I now have to mark it to prevent my mates to fight it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 While the visual is cool (no deny) I am interested in the power level. Do the ghost do the full damage of the killed enemies, how many of them can you have up and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, phoenix1992 said: While the visual is cool (no deny) I am interested in the power level. Do the ghost do the full damage of the killed enemies, how many of them can you have up and so on. Tbh I'm not sure about the dmg they dish out. I managed to have 5-6 out a time, but since they vanish after 7 seconds it might be hard to make more. Still thay fight for you and draw away enemy fire, so thats a nice bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 8 hours ago, (PS4)ATreidezz said: Ah yes, now i cant level it up using the stealth solo strat... Dammit Same goes with Rakta. just don't charge it. only a charged shot from the ballista prime produces a ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, 321agemo said: just don't charge it. only a charged shot from the ballista prime produces a ghost. Is the primary fire different from the others? If not, literally nothing else matters to me, and I consider it fodder. Hate the normal and Rakta variants primary fire so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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