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Plains of Eidolon: Hotfix 22.0.7

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Demaneth

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1 minute ago, Sebastianx said:

If that's really the case then me getting ~15 Murks from 10 baits and you getting 0 from 20 baits, is not RNG, but most likely some sort of bug. Try going in the plains alone, could be that only the host can make them spawn under the conditions I mentioned.

Im not talking about me, only the posts on feedback forum. Im not going to fish till DE fixes most of this mess. Im ok with ppl who loves the system how is ti right now but I really dont like it.

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17 minutes ago, DarkDemonXR69 said:

Im not talking about me, only the posts on feedback forum. Im not going to fish till DE fixes most of this mess. Im ok with ppl who loves the system how is ti right now but I really dont like it.

Oh, that explains a lot if you haven't tried, because every person I spoke with that was like "OmG WhErE ArE FiShEs?!?" did something wrong, either used bait in incorrect area or didn't throw the bait in bubbly water or didn't try to go solo (possible bug where rare fish won't spawn if you're not host, not sure tho)

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Demaneth

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1 minute ago, Sebastianx said:

Oh, that explains a lot if you haven't tried, because every person I spoke with that was like "OmG WhErE ArE FiShEs?!?" did something wrong, either used bait in incorrect area or didn't throw the bait in bubbly water or didn't try to go solo (possible bug where rare fish won't spawn if you're not host, not sure tho)

I talking about players who already test that bubbly water that you are talking about. Even did read that the streamer brozime or whatever is called try that 5hours and didnt get anything. If its a bug thats is enough reason to not fish till they fix it. I will not waste materials on baits to get nothing. And obviously I assume all that feedback on the forums are from ppl testing things alone.

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8 hours ago, [DE]Connor said:

Higher level bounties will offer Kuva and Void Traces.

Just Kuva please! Veterans and more experienced players do not need the traces, we want to re-roll our rivens :clem:

8 hours ago, [DE]Connor said:

Breath of Eidolon requirements replaced with common and uncommon resources.

Thank you for doing this! It was really annoying to have one particular resource available in only one bounty. Now if you guys could increase the Endo reward in the 4th bounty from 300 to 1000 it would actually seem like an ok reward.

Also the credit cache rewards are practically the same as getting a boot from fishing. If you guys could make a system where you get a credit amount based on your MR rank, it would make it far more rewarding. It would also give more meaning to having a higher MR because the higher your MR the better the credit rewards scale in bounties. Just a thought.

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9 hours ago, toafarmer said:

 

Still no fixes for:

1- When vault timer ends, the vault sometimes doesn't open, making it impossible to enter it and complete the boring as hell mobdef part of the bounty. [THIS IS CANCER!!!!!!!!][confirmed on .7]

Please disable this until its fixed. That is the main reason why i don't do bounties nowadays. 

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4 hours ago, DarkDemonXR69 said:

There are a lot of players that already said that does not work... Is RNG problem you can catch 15 of them and other player waste 20 baits and get nothing. Baits should be 100% chance... Im starting to hate the rng lottery on warframe.

I dont want them to be 100% or they will lose their "rare" status. something around 60-70% should work for most

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9 hours ago, Blaktank said:

First, sure you might be able to get void traces elsewhere, but this offers an alternative and gives Cetus rep and the potential for materials and various other Cetus specific items.

That would be fine if I didn't have Traces pouring out of every one of my holes. Also, you don't need to use a relic to get traces in fissure missions.

9 hours ago, Blaktank said:

Second, Have you tried fishing at sea during the day? In a single Cetus day's worth of fishing I can max my Cetus standing (23000) while still having an extra 10-25k worth of fish left.

Yes, I have. However, not everyone has "a single Cetus' day worth of time". Also, there are a million and one things I could be doing that would be more rewarding of my time. Expecting me to spend hours of my time in a game about being a magical space wizard to grinding for fish couldn't be any less appealing if it was wrapped in barbed wire and set ablaze. Seriously, anything that's common during the day and doesn't require bait gives 50 rep a piece. That's for a large fish. I'd rather spending my time flicking nickles against a radiator and hoping one turns into gold.

Also, if you're using a resource booster, everything you said here was moot because boosters now double the amount of fish you gain.

9 hours ago, Blaktank said:

Finally, bounties should definitely not give all your daily standing for completing 5, they want us to actually spend time there, not just go in spend 10-20 minutes for a bounty and then leave.

First off, yes, you should. I am doing Sortie level missions that take upwards of 20 minutes (Vault mission > Liberation 500m away > Drone Escort 600m away> Supply Sabotage 1100m away are all to common and take a long time [sidenote: I have had bounties were I've gotten the same mission twice in a bounty]). Why am I only getting 12% of cap? Second off, if they want us to spend more than 1-20 minutes, they're doing a poor job of it because I currently want to spend 0 time in it. What do Bounties offer me? A chance of a Flood worth of Kuva for a 20 minute Sortie mission?

9 hours ago, Blaktank said:

Not to mention being able to max your standing from the bounty system alone is not having you experience the entirety of what Cetus and the Plains have to offer.

Honestly, what does it offer? I've done some bounties. I've finished the quest. Did some mining and fishing. I got my Gara baking. I took down an Teralyst. I killed enough of them to get enough Brilliant Shards to Waybound everything. I've gotten to the point where I can capture 4 Teralysts in one night cycle without needing Shield Disruption. What, I'm going to build a Zaw? I already have enough melee weapons. I don't need another weapon that requires me to jump through extra hoops just to put a Potato in the darn thing!

9 hours ago, Blaktank said:

You can easily cap your standing in 1-2 hours of playing in the Plains.

Spending 1-2 hours for the sole purpose of hitting a cap is one of the most insane things I've ever heard. No. I'm going to spend that hour doing literally anything else like burning relics for Ducats for things to sell for plat. I am not spending over an hour of my time to hit some cap. No. Just. No.

Also, this goes back to that thing I mentioned: upwards of 20 minutes in a mission with a high chance to bug out to hit 1/8 of my cap. Even if I could repeat bounties for standing, that's easily 2 hours of doing the same mission (not counting loading and failures) just to hit my cap. It's also a lot more effort (and I guess time) than picking Ivara, hitting 3, and standing in one spot.

 

Lastly, the point of a cap is because standing is so easy to get! It's already there to limit how much people can do! So why, pray tell, does it need to be a massive time sink as well when a cap exists?

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45 minutes ago, Inkogni said:

I dont want them to be 100% or they will lose their "rare" status. something around 60-70% should work for most

Fair enough but DE is not used to those numbers, watching drop tables and chance percentages on relics and other gear.

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12 hours ago, Inkogni said:

Go Fish

Ok.. but do they actually SPAWN that damn fish im after ? because 20 baits in i dont think it works or hints ANYTHING. what i do know is how many GOOPOLLA i have

I'm having the exact same issue. I've been tossing them in those.. splashy parts in the water and I've had zero spawns so far :/

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39 minutes ago, MulticolourkomodoDragon said:

I'm having the exact same issue. I've been tossing them in those.. splashy parts in the water and I've had zero spawns so far :/

13 hours ago, Inkogni said:

Go Fish

Ok.. but do they actually SPAWN that damn fish im after ? because 20 baits in i dont think it works or hints ANYTHING. what i do know is how many GOOPOLLA i have

You both talking about this ? 

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P.S. Just 40 murkray bait... got 2 fish :)

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And still - after 7 hotfixes, missing the most important problems that make Cetus a waste of time. Like broken objectives, random failures, not being able to leave alone, vanishing eidelon drops, huge rep time wall for AMP-s, extreme over the top focus requirements, performance issues, AW being weak and useless, invisible low ceiling, aw charge cost (made bad by the weak AW), insane wisp costs for crafting at for a hard to find low spawn rate resource etc.
 

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1 hour ago, Ketec said:

not being able to leave alone, vanishing eidelon drops, AW being weak and useless, insane wisp costs for crafting at for a hard to find low spawn rate resource etc.
 

1. You can abort mission at any time and keep everything you've gathered, unless you've done a bounty. I have yet to test its interactions with bounties, but for the time being am warning players against it.

2. I'm thinking that one's due to latency. I ran a capture hunt last night and got the full 5 exceptionals, flawless, and the brilliant shard from it, so it's definitely more consistent compared to before.

3. AW is and always was intended to be a mode of transportation, not a combat aid. However, I can tell you that AW combat on the Plains is balanced around the Odonata, so you'll likely have a better time using that.

4. I'm rather in agreement there, the only reliable way to get these things seems to be running bounties to try and get something else...

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