541K4T Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 A request to all those Meas Fanboys / Fangirls, please don't bring Mesa in a Rad-hazard sortie Exterminate / Mobile Defense / Defense. And if you really can't help it, then please play Solo, don't ruin others game intentionally or unintentionally by killing you teammates by joining pugs. And I post this because, apparently even some MR 25 guys don't know what Rad-Hazard does, which add fuels to the never-ending debate that MR means nothing but leveling up a substantial amount of Junks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesiga Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 They know plenty well what it does, it's just the matter if they care or not. As long as no one gets proc'd by the area bubbles around it doesn't matter what you bring. Accidents happen, but also they just shrug it off cause they're going to see themselves as carrying you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurrrningBoop Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Why only mesa, what about octavia, saryn, gara, ember, etc.? I'd say that it's quite easy to kill a friendly with a gun or a melee when rad procked. Why not play solo so nobody ruins your day? In my oppinion, regardless of what you are using, being aware of your surroundings and knowing your frames kit is far more important. Edited December 5, 2018 by PurrrningBoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteMarker Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Or maybe you could't not join pugs. If you join a public game, anything can happen. And you know that. So please, stop complaining. And btw. There is an issue so that the clouds are invisible from time to time. Doesn't make things any better.. Edited December 5, 2018 by WhiteMarker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDEBz Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Or you could just play rad hazards in private matches rather than allowing yourself to be exposed to such players and ranting on forums about it. Why complain about something that really is a non issue provided some common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewarette Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I often bring Mesa in Sorties when I want to (and you won't force anyone to do what you want), and most of the people randomly dying are people who are getting affected by Radiation, not me. Clean your own mess, most of the times you're the faulty one. Edited December 5, 2018 by Chewarette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyori Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Radiation hazard sortie = solo game. It's sad to say.. .but if you join a pug for radiation sortie then you can't point finger at anyone because knowing anyone has the potential to troll in radiation sortie. Also, not sure if I am the only one but those hazard bubbles have gone invisible for a long time and it's still not fix yet. Edited December 5, 2018 by kyori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Akira of Davion Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 DON'T TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE!!! Just because *you* don't want to change your build to something that would cushion the rads doesn't mean someone else should abstain from having their fun shooting up the joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I quickly kill Irradiated team mates if they happen to be people like Excalibur, Mesa or Volt, then revive them. It is the best way to cancel their power spam nonsense because most of them won't take a hint or keep aware of their status procs. There is of course no point if it is an irradiated Saryn or Equinox. If it is things like Exterminate, I just go solo, but for stuff like defense, I just bring a Phoenix Oberon. The team is quite careful to avoid hitting me and quick to revive me because when I go down they normally follow in quick succession. Normally if I do shoot you in such Sorties by mistake I will revive you, unless you have been griefing the game and not careful - I will definitely team kill such people, repeatedly and ignore their whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maicael Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I usually just bring an Icy Avalanche Frost. If people stay close and I keep an eye on their protection, then nobody gets procced and it doesn't matter what they're using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtflag Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I bring Valkyr. Regularly reset my 4 when it reaches 100%, while in rolling guard effect, for absolute invulnerability. No sh!ts given to homicidal teammates. 😄 Edited December 5, 2018 by wtflag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Vesiga: They know plenty well what it does, it's just the matter if they care or not. Some know, others don´t. vor 2 Stunden schrieb Chewarette: and most of the people randomly dying are people who are getting affected by Radiation, not me. Don´t matter if you get killed by teammates because you are affected by radiation or the guy killing you. And btw, there are 2 types of radiation hazard. 1 with clouds and 1 where the whole map is under radiation and you get random procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewarette Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Kuestenjung said: Don´t matter if you get killed by teammates because you are affected by radiation or the guy killing you. And btw, there are 2 types of radiation hazard. 1 with clouds and 1 where the whole map is under radiation and you get random procs. Well no. Radiation Hazard sortie, with Radiation Clouds. Sometimes they're not visible, or hard to avoid, but in these cases you just have to be reactive and go hide somewhere. Elemental Enhancement - Radiation sortie, which happens like twice a year, you may be subject to Radiation Status whenever you get hit. The whole point of Elemental/Physical Enhancement sorties is to avoid getting hit, as you're likely to die unless you're playing some immortal warframe. In the second case, Mesa ensures that you won't get hit, because everyone in sight will be dead already, so it actually helps. In the first case, if you're getting Rad'ed in the plain line of sight of the Mesa at the moment she's Peacemakin' (which shouldn't last more than 2 seconds), then you're either unlucky or simply willing to die. But you won't repeatedly get killed by Mesa if you actually work your brain. For sure there will forever be trolls in these Sorties affixes. If you can't deal with them, then : - Solo this round - Set up a group - Protect yourself by stopping being a victim and pick Oberon/Nezha, so that you can protect yourself AND allies ! - Counter-troll the trolls Edit: honestly, Saryn is more often a problem than Mesa, because even if the Saryn is pro-active on Molt'ing out of Radiation, any spore spreading in that microsecond can be enough to kill you Edited December 5, 2018 by Chewarette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)drpunk-yo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I leave Mesa at home for radiation sorties ever since I took out a mobile defence station (at least I think it was me). I'd also call for people leaving their Arca Plasmor behind for these sorties too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Oberon is my go-to frame for any radiation sortie which I pug. Of course, it doesn't help that radiation bubbles have been invisible ever since Fortuna's release. This is, what, THREE WEEKS NOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 vor 55 Minuten schrieb Chewarette: Well no. Radiation Hazard sortie, with Radiation Clouds. Sometimes they're not visible, or hard to avoid, but in these cases you just have to be reactive and go hide somewhere. The last radiation hazard the whole level had a radiation hazard filter, so if this is not to be supposed this way, then it´s a bug, but I actually thought it´s a new kind of radiation hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnyn Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 There is a way to do rad hazards as Mesa: equip a rank 1 and a rank 2 Arcane Healing and you are completely rad proc immune. Or if you are afraid other people will play Mesa then you could pick Nezha with his Safeguard augment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridian Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Woops, shouldn't have gone to that sortie with Mesa I guess, but I was a good boy and didn't TK anyone. I take it I should cut some slack to the Revenant who was walking around in Dance Macabre and realized it was a Rad sortie only at extraction? To make my point clear, it's not the frame's fault that the appliance behind the keyboard is a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancars Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 i bring frames to negate the rads in sorties if i do them knowing people will bring super kill frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewarette Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Kuestenjung said: The last radiation hazard the whole level had a radiation hazard filter, so if this is not to be supposed this way, then it´s a bug, but I actually thought it´s a new kind of radiation hazard. Didn't notice that, that definitely sounds like a bug. Even though I have to admit these missions would be way more challenging and potentially fun if we were just affected by Radiation status for the full mission ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Get downed once by friendly fire -- tell the others to watch their fire (it's not that hard to ignore a big red icon as well as radiation-specific SFX and VFX, unless, of course; you're Mesa where you will kill stuff before getting visuals/hearing sfx). Get downed by friendly fire once again -- warn them that if they won't stop you won't hesitate to open fire. Get downed again -- disengage, get a rad proc, find the friendly fire cause and eliminate it with your warframe/specter/sentinel/pet/operator. And then again, if neccessary. Some people have issues with understanding, so let them learn it the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnyn Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 vor 5 Minuten schrieb Thundervision: Get downed once by friendly fire -- tell the others to watch their fire (it's not that hard to ignore a big red icon as well as radiation-specific SFX and VFX, unless, of course; you're Mesa where you will kill stuff before getting visuals/hearing sfx). Get downed by friendly fire once again -- warn them that if they won't stop you won't hesitate to open fire. Get downed again -- disengage, get a rad proc, find the friendly fire cause and eliminate it with your warframe/specter/sentinel/pet/operator. And then again, if neccessary. Some people have issues with understanding, so let them learn it the hard way. I hope you dont do that when you were the one being rad proc'd. Because that makes a big difference. IMO it's always the fault of the rad proc'd person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL4CKN0ISE Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Mesa? Gara basically breaks the game, but Rad Hazard is way too much fun tho. And come on, you already knew why people use those frames in Rad Hazard sorties. Of course people love the chance to PvP with normal abilities and mods equipped. 4 hours ago, 541K4T said: A request to all those Mesa Fanboys / Fangirls, please don't bring Mesa in a Rad-hazard sortie Exterminate / Mobile Defense / Defense. And if you really can't help it, then please play Solo, don't ruin others game intentionally or unintentionally by killing you teammates by joining pugs. And I post this because, apparently even some MR 25 guys don't know what Rad-Hazard does, which add fuels to the never-ending debate that MR means nothing but leveling up a substantial amount of Junks. Interesting logic. "If you want to team kill, play solo". I'm pretty sure the answer to your problem is for YOU to play solo. Why ruin it for other players because you don't want to participate in the fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Drachnyn said: I hope you dont do that when you were the one being rad proc'd. Because that makes a big difference. IMO it's always the fault of the rad proc'd person. Well, I'm not perfect, either. I have no control over my pets/sentinel (other than running away as fast as possible) when I get rad-procced, but I do transference out to prevent myself from using abilities and weapons as well as dashing through nearby allies to grant them invulnerability when I can #VazarinForLife I despise intentionally shooting anyone in public matches (unless playing with friends, heh). Edited December 5, 2018 by Thundervision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnyn Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 vor 1 Minute schrieb Thundervision: Well, I'm not perfect, either. I have no control over my pets/sentinel (other than running away as fast as possible) when I get rad-procced, but I do transference out to prevent myself from using abilities and weapons as well as dashing through nearby allies to grant them invulnerability when I can #VazarinForLife This is why I never give my sentinel a weapon and either use Arcane Healing or frames that have built in status immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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