Skaleek Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, DerGreif2 said: Then you have to do it again. It has not a token system. Its pure luck and a item that really is special. Hence my forum post. Thanks for getting on the same page. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Santana722 said: They're cosmetics that are supposed to feel prestigious, that's the whole point. because it requires outstanding ability to get a 1% drop chance item to drop? what? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) I'd rather them make it wave 16 at 100% drop rate. Just make it a milestone. Make arbitration Rotation #20. Make us EARN it, not grind it. That way when when you see someone with it, you know they accomplished X, rather than just "got lucky". Edited March 8, 2019 by Skaleek 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakdafunk Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rawbeard said: because it requires outstanding ability to get a 1% drop chance item to drop? what? Some would consider patience as an outstanding ability 😉. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, breakdafunk said: Some would consider patience as an outstanding ability 😉. some are insane 2 minutes ago, Skaleek said: I'd rather them make it wave 16 at 100% drop rate. Just make it a milestone. Make arbitration Rotation #20. Make us EARN it, not grind it. That way when when you see someone with it, you know they accomplished X, rather than just "got lucky". grind is the name of the game, especially grind without a pay alternative, which would be the point of grind in a f2p game. DE either lost their minds, or just want to do some weird ass experiment of how far they can push people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Rawbeard said: grind is the name of the game, especially grind without a pay alternative, which would be the point of grind in a f2p game. DE either lost their minds, or just want to do some weird ass experiment of how far they can push people. I've noticed this too. All we can do is try to speak out on the forums. Thats really my only recourse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakdafunk Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Rawbeard said: some are insane (...) No disagreement here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemike137 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Skaleek said: I'd rather them make it wave 16 at 100% drop rate. Just make it a milestone. Make arbitration Rotation #20. Make us EARN it, not grind it. That way when when you see someone with it, you know they accomplished X, rather than just "got lucky". This would be pretty neat, though it would probably have to be moved further back than wave 16 or whatever. Something like the prodman poster perhaps, was that what you had in mind? But I can see DE’s side of this. They can’t have everyone just running somewhere once and then having the new cosmetic and going back to griping about having nothing to do/nothing to grind for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salenstormwing Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 ESO C-Drop Table: 1.84% Braton Vandal Stock It wouldn't be so bad if ESO was AABCCC..., but it's AABCAABCAABC... And don't even get me started on the Lato Vandal parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Littlemike137 said: This would be pretty neat, though it would probably have to be moved further back than wave 16 or whatever. Something like the prodman poster perhaps, was that what you had in mind? But I can see DE’s side of this. They can’t have everyone just running somewhere once and then having the new cosmetic and going back to griping about having nothing to do/nothing to grind for. Absolutely like prodmans poster. That way you know you did something special. Right now its just cruel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune_me Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Skaleek said: Hence my forum post. Thanks for getting on the same page. I find it strangely satisfying that this post is actually the first post of a new page 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Skaleek said: No, i've done hundreds of runs of eso. I did it already. I farmed it. I mastered it. They're asking me to do it again. For a new player, they'll just go and run in there because they need other things and get this passively. For me i have to actively grind for a 1% item at 8 waves. THATS INSANE. How can you even begin to rationalize that? remember grinding khora? That was brutal. These drop tables for the others are worse. The seeded one is 2%, sure, but its on c rotation of arbitration. So mans asking me to either do arbit till see every hour, or grind out and stay in long. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Skaleek said: I'd rather them make it wave 16 at 100% drop rate. Just make it a milestone. Make arbitration Rotation #20. Make us EARN it, not grind it. That way when when you see someone with it, you know they accomplished X, rather than just "got lucky". Earn it by running a mode once. That's an awesome way to get people to play something and get free cosmetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibmobello Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Marvelous_A said: "Arbitration has a perfectly working token system let's just put it in RNG anyway" The problem is when the R doesn't mean Random anymore but Ret.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenariousNex Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I don't mind these being rare as long as there are a lot of them and they come from various sources. Same as 1% drop chance mounts in WoW, they make the game feel very special if you have one of those, because if everyone get it easy, it loses value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SordidDreams Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, trst said: Where else would you propose they be put then? Exactly what content do we have which hasn't had some reason to be farmed repeatedly already? Maybe they could have made them earnable not by farming but by performing one very difficult challenge. Think riven or Nightwave challenges, but more. Edited March 8, 2019 by SordidDreams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, SordidDreams said: Maybe they could have made them earnable not by farming but by performing one very difficult challenge. That's really what i expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SordidDreams Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Skaleek said: That's really what i expected. I suspect the reason they didn't do that is that it's very difficult to come up with a challenge in WF that can't be trivialized by the correct choice of equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, SordidDreams said: I suspect the reason they didn't do that is that it's very difficult to come up with a challenge in WF that can't be trivialized by the correct choice of equipment. Going to wave 30 in ESO is pretty hard,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibmobello Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SordidDreams said: Maybe they could have made them earnable not by farming but by performing one very difficult challenge. Think riven or Nightwave challenges, but more. I asked that before... Absolutely that kind of reward is not for this game, you have only to farm like a crazy otherwise you will not be happy. Edited March 8, 2019 by bibmobello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) I've been complaining about 2% or less drop rates for ages (these aren't the only things at 2% or less)... we're still getting them because this is DE's 'solution' to making players go back to things we don't want or 'need' to do anymore... yeah I know it's the wrong idea but DE just don't seem to see it like we do. Edited March 8, 2019 by LSG501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, LSG501 said: I've been complaining about 2% or less drop rates for ages (these aren't the only things at 2% or less)... we're still getting them because this is DE's 'solution' to making players go back to things we don't want or 'need' to do anymore... yeah I know it's the wrong idea but DE just don't seem to see it like we do. Yep. More people need to speak out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibelung-Valesti Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) 😅 Working as intended? Edited March 9, 2019 by HyoHatsuho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seprent Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 18 hours ago, Rawbeard said: some are insane Sanity is optional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 On 2019-03-08 at 12:26 AM, (PS4)psycofang said: Let me be real, not even korean mmos have gotten that bad. Ah ha ha ha.... ha ha ha... ha... Oh yes they are, and always have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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