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Kuva Weapon Rivens + Disposition Process Changes

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Amazing, when will we get numbers in the Arsenal instead of 5 circles? 

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This can be really problematic for variants which stats are close to its base 

Prime/syndicate varients might swap usage due to rivens being a factor 

Zhuge might be better than zhuge prime due to better dispo etc 

Its a good approach dont get me wrong but you need to be really carefull with this 

Hope it goes well 

 

Read some comments and realized this could be really problematic for trading people might be scammed really hard a warning must be shown when trading 

My advise some base varients shouldnt be counted for clairty ex braton lato karak 

Instead dispo is different in varients ex braton prime/vandal karak wraith/kuva etc which hopefully will keep values close 

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Just now, Kylo. said:

Amazing, when will we get numbers in the Arsenal instead of 5 circles? 

Why? Circles too difficult to read?

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Dispositions per weapon is the right thing to do. Now regular weapons dont have to suffer because their prime counterpart is leaps and bounds ahead of them. Does this mean my old tiberon will get its 1.5 disposition back?

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Just now, Admiral_Aetius said:

Why? Circles too difficult to read?

Yes actually. Circles give an estimation of the disposition value.

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1 minute ago, Admiral_Aetius said:

Why? Circles too difficult to read?

Not accurate enough.

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24 minutes ago, [DE]Connor said:

We hope you’re having fun Vanquishing Kuva Liches left and right on PC

Not really

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so basically what i read is something like the vectis will soon become the greatness of a 1.0 riven disposition while vectis prime sits back at the bottom at 0.8

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6 minutes ago, Admiral_Aetius said:

Why? Circles too difficult to read?

Each circle actually represents a range of dispositions.

●●●●● (1.31-1.55): Strong: Assigned to the least frequently-used weapons. Rivens with this disposition provide the greatest attributes.

●●●●○ (1.11-1.3): This Disposition is assigned to less popular weapons, Riven mods provide above-average attributes.

●●●○○ (0.9-1.1): Neutral: Weapons that see average usage within the player base, resulting in average attributes.

●●○○○ (0.7-0.89): Slightly more popular weapons, these will yield a below-average attributes.

●○○○○ (0.5-0.69)

 

What this means is that the circle tells you that the disposition value is somewhere between the values listed above but not exactly what it is.

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2 hours ago, Admiral_Aetius said:

Why? Circles too difficult to read?

What is the disposition on catchmoon? It has 3 circle ingame denoting 0.9-1.1 but last riven revision said is 0.5 witch is 1 circle. So which is it?

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So basically the primed versions have no need or meaning then of you have a great riven for a high dispo  great weapon that receives a primed counterpart. thanks for making it easy to ignore or want a primed weapon DE great job 

to quote a friend on this awful decision:

you get a karak riven with +100 on it, you put it on karak wraith it turns to +70 you put it on kuva karak its actually only +40

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This will be an interesting change. I expect to see a lot of meta shift, and *hopefully* a softening of the riven market as a whole.

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So uhhh we'll see a full dispo on a tigris but a .000000000000000005 on the prime....... Looks balanced to me *slams head against wall*

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2 hours ago, alexbug15 said:

What is the disposition on catchmoon? It has 3 circle ingame denoting 0.9-1.1 but last riven revision said is 0.5 witch is 1 circle. So which is it?

i think that is a bug on DE needs to fix 

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Just now, kpa732 said:

This will be an interesting change. I expect to see a lot of meta shift, and *hopefully* a softening of the riven market as a whole.

that wont happen lmao that opens up a new market for insanely priced rivens for normal variants of weapons 

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So you guys will be able to ensure all of the newest equipment comes pre-nerfed on disposition. Great. It's exciting alright.

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And now all the primes are worse on release because lower dispo

Good job DE!

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While Its nice to differentiate weaker versions of the same weapon to stronger primed or similar versions it opens a new can of worms.

You literally can't release a new prime weapon anymore that doesn't absolutely destroy its counterpart if you apply a lower disposition, especially so when the dispo drops below 1.0.

We already have the dilemma with Dragon Nikana and Nikana Prime. Nikana Prime is the distinctively better weapon but Dragon Nikana has a 1.35 dispo, while Nikana P has 0.5. This leads to Dragon Nikana being the stronger weapon with an accordingly strong riven as that allows it to outpace the basic stat advantage of Nikana P. The Issue is softened by not having weapons drop below 1.0 as 1.0 still provides enough stats to solidify the use of a riven and thus the primed version as the stronger one but as soon as it goes lower and the rivens generally are not necessarily worth using that much at all anymore which leads to newly primed weapons being worse than the original for riven invested players.

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10 minutes ago, xRufus7x said:

Each circle actually represents a range of dispositions.

Damn how'd you do all those graphics, that was epic.

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