Gasau Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 If I understand correctly, the double resource multiplier now directly affects the gameplay. What makes the game a total pay 2 win. Correct me if I am wrong. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbubblepants Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Its always affected gameplay. There is no pay to win. Pay for faster yes l, but entirely achievable without. I played for 5 years without spending a dime. And considering how easily you can trade plat for prime parts you never have to spend money. Edited December 13, 2019 by mrbubblepants Spelling 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronoPhX Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, mrbubblepants said: Its always affected gameplay. There is no pay to win. Pay for faster yes l, but entirely achievable without. I played for 5 years without spending a dime. And considering how easily you can trade plat for prime parts you never have to spend money. that's not the issue at hand... the issue is that a mechanic, the booster, which you need to pay for with platinum, a premium currency, is influencing minute to minute gameplay which was not the case up until now 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesiga Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I think the PTW thing is the 50p repair items and the Diracs. 50p = skip all materials and get your new railjack weapon/ship part built. Meaning you don't have to farm 2.5k pustrels and a few thousand other materials. Diracs upgrade your ships mods AND the grid 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Not Pay to Win, more like Pay to Skip. You can still grind the resources in a reasonable amount of time. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskham Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vesiga said: I think the PTW thing is the 50p repair items and the Diracs. 50p = skip all materials and get your new railjack weapon/ship part built. Meaning you don't have to farm 2.5k pustrels and a few thousand other materials. Diracs upgrade your ships mods AND the grid The repair drone is just like buying a piece of equipment from the market (warframe, weapons, etc) but with a fixed price (when you buy normal equipment with plat it even comes with a reactor/catalyst and a slot), so nothing new... but the diracs thing is like buying endo i think...idk, but i really dont care 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Well allow me to explain how i see it. Those will not really be of use in the future. They are just there to force interaction. When you do a mission ( and finally complete it because i failled a crap ton of them this morning ) you will see that in mission you drop soo much of those ressources its insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acos Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 'Pay to Win' as a term means being able to pay for power that is not realistically accessible without doing so. Warframe has had "pay to skip" for about as long as the game has been a thing, and has removed features it felt were pay to win in the past. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Matter Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Wf has always been Pay to skip. Which I am not really against when it is moderated. Especially the chore is too unbearable or long and some people just may not have the time or patience. I farm whatever I can, or whatever I feel like is not a huge waste of time but I tend to use affinity or resource boosters or rush foundry items If I need em quick. Haven't played Railjack yet btw. So not sure what the op is talking about. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--F--NerevarCM Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, Gasau said: If I understand correctly, the double resource multiplier now directly affects the gameplay. What makes the game a total pay 2 win. Correct me if I am wrong. You mean pay to skip. Not pay to win. Warframe has always been pay to skip. Since we can buy mods instead of dropping them or buying weapons instead of crafting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, Gasau said: Correct me if I am wrong. Do you need it to win the game? No Hence, it's not pay to win, can people understand what it means for once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 i guess you're technically right, Gameplay is objectively easier when you get more of the Resources, Resources that determine whether you win or lose the Mission (or how difficult it will be, if not a critical breach). how significant that will be in the grand scheme remains to be seen, but you're right i suppose, yes. now if some of the parrots in here would have stopped to read the Thread before they Posted a message. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, Gasau said: If I understand correctly, the double resource multiplier now directly affects the gameplay. What makes the game a total pay 2 win. Correct me if I am wrong. Wrong forum, dude. This is neither Warface nor Skyforge. This is Warframe, and Boosters have always been present pretty much since the release of the 1st booster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasau Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 минуты назад, Xenox_Ilz-ot сказал: Do you need it to win the game? No refill the revolite for the omni tool. omni tool need to repair the ship Yes you need it to win the game actually, or you ship gonna die and you fail the mission. This is purest 100% pay 2 win. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlendasNaro Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I don't think you even ever have seen a pay to win game Gasau. Friend of mine played Ghost Recon: Phantoms and he will forever keep that game as greatest example of actual P2W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furebel Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Someone please detoxicate him, he had enough forums for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 If you actually play the game mode you'll eventually have such a huge stock pile of all those resources that it won't ever be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyreens Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) I don't think the resource booster is P2W but that you can buy Dirac is close to P2W. It is compared to the small amounts that drops a huge number. But what concerns me more is the frequency and quality of those supporter packages in the store and the 800+ plat bundles latley. They seem very desperate. Edited December 13, 2019 by tyreens 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, tyreens said: I don't think the resource booster is P2W but that you can buy Dirac is close to P2W. It is compared to the small amounts that drops a huge number. But what concerns me more is the frequency and quality of those supporter packages in the store and the 800+ plat bundles latley. They seem very desperate. Eh, it's comparable to endo bundles and mod packs. It's wildly inefficient. Rather than p2w I would call it exploitative, giving people a opportunity to waste plat on something that can earn in game quite easily is kind of offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyreens Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) vor 7 Minuten schrieb Aggh: Eh, it's comparable to endo bundles and mod packs. It's wildly inefficient. Rather than p2w I would call it exploitative, giving people a opportunity to waste plat on something that can earn in game quite easily is kind of offensive. Yeah and? Buying endo is kind of P2W too (But it would be dumb to do so :D). The difference is that you can farm better endo than dirac for what i've seen until now and that the endo/plat ratio is much worse. Edited December 13, 2019 by tyreens 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SrebX Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, ChronoPhX said: that's not the issue at hand... the issue is that a mechanic, the booster, which you need to pay for with platinum, a premium currency, is influencing minute to minute gameplay which was not the case up until now I don't see how that's true. Still looks like pay to skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromaniaque Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 One day I'll know how one does "win" in a PvE game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighteyezzz Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 They definitely feel more aggressive with their monetization the pass few updates. I'm curious to how much goodwill is left in this community, for me they're definitely riding a razor blade edge with there monetization and bugs. This all feels very familiar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, tyreens said: Yeah and? Buying endo is kind of P2W too (But it would be dumb to do so :D). The difference is that you can farm better endo than dirac for what i've seen until now and that the endo/plat ratio is much worse. There are are for sure better endo farms, but as long as you have a pilot who makes sure to actually pick up all the dirac drops it's never really going to be worth buying with plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Gasau said: Correct me if I am wrong. You are not. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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