[Spoilers: Duviri Paradox] how would adult operators even work?

[MysticDragonMage]

10 hours ago, Uhkretor said:

I'm sorry... I fail to see where something that was only shown on Tennocon, and hasn't been released yet, is going to be spoiled... You don't even know what the hell is DE going to do with it.

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No one does!

the spoiler is simply for anyone who has not seen the trailer yet.

would it be better if i didn't put in "spoiler" because it unintentionally baited you to believe i actually knew what was going on in Duviri Paradox? as you have said. not possible.

[(PSN)FriendSharkey]

We'll all find out in six years...

[Uhkretor]

1 minute ago, MysticDragonMage said:

would it be better if i didn't put in "spoiler"

Probably.

I would've placed "Possible Content" instead of "Spoiler"...

2 minutes ago, MysticDragonMage said:

because it unintentionally baited you to believe i actually knew what was going on in Duviri Paradox?

Nah, you didn't bait anyone into thinking such a thing.

I simply pointed out a certainty, in order to reinforce your certainty that you don't know anything about it... And that any kind of discussion about it isn't a discussion without having a solid baseline.

Having a teaser about it shown on Tennocon is hardly considered as a baseline, and anyone that hasn't seen it knows even less about it than those that actually saw the teaser, so the name of the possible content doesn't spark anything to them.

 

... Its like I said on another topic, to another player, about the Railjack before Rising Tide was released... There's absolutely no point whatsoever in discussing something that hasn't been released yet. Its way more effective to do it after its release. But there's no worry, the Pre-Release discussion is going to happen sooner or later... Internally at DE.

And no, I'm a normal player like you.

[Ham_Grenabe]

3 hours ago, Itsmez said:

Wiping out all the progress and grind that people has done for their void powers doesnt really sound something that DE would do, if they do they would be extremely stupid.

I quess there will be new content, like new chapter where those powers are not a thing and for the old content its the same. That would be the only thing that makes sense to me

Rendering our progress moot on our Warframes is also a problem. I personally don’t want to play “spandex human” in the Warframe universe.

Adult operators are interesting in the academic sense. Gameplay-wise, it seems like DE is really working to slow the pace of things down.

Hopefully it’s a short solo quest and we can get back to our Warframes quickly. 

Edited December 31, 2019 by Ham_Grenabe

[MysticDragonMage]

16 minutes ago, Uhkretor said:

Probably.

I would've placed "Possible Content" instead of "Spoiler"...

Nah, you didn't bait anyone into thinking such a thing.

I simply pointed out a certainty, in order to reinforce your certainty that you don't know anything about it... And that any kind of discussion about it isn't a discussion without having a solid baseline.

Having a teaser about it shown on Tennocon is hardly considered as a baseline, and anyone that hasn't seen it knows even less about it than those that actually saw the teaser, so the name of the possible content doesn't spark anything to them.

 

... Its like I said on another topic, to another player, about the Railjack before Rising Tide was released... There's absolutely no point whatsoever in discussing something that hasn't been released yet. Its way more effective to do it after its release. But there's no worry, the Pre-Release discussion is going to happen sooner or later... Internally at DE.

And no, I'm a normal player like you.

i didn't make this topic to discuss why we shouldn't be talking about it and you as a "normal player" have no privilege to tell other people that there is no point in doing so.

its true that even with the trailer we cant confirm anything, but that does not mean people are forbidden from theorizing or speculating. all this conversation did was tell me that you are annoyed when people who are not the developers spark discussions before the actual content is released. that's honestly not my problem, the spoiler stays, and thus we have nothing else to discuss.

Edited December 31, 2019 by MysticDragonMage

[IIDMOII]

I sincerely hope that after old blood and empryean, the next major content update isn't trapped behind yet another bubble.

They seriously need to start connecting the dots between all these wildly different systems. 

The constant soft reset on progression is tiresome when we've invested so much in the core game. The last 2 updates have me  questioning the direction of the game and if I should keep investing.

I certainly wouldn't hesitate to take a long break if I find out I have to play as a kid with a crappy rifle and have to re-level some absurd tacked on gimmick mode again.

 

 

Edited December 31, 2019 by IIDMOII

[(PSN)Silverback73]

23 minutes ago, Ham_Grenabe said:

Rendering our progress moot on our Warframes is also a problem. I personally don’t want to play “spandex human” in the Warframe universe.

Adult operators are interesting in the academic sense. Gameplay-wise, it seems like DE is really working to slow the pace of things down.

Hopefully it’s a short solo quest and we can get back to our Warframes quickly. 

Or it is the foundation for being able to use weapons along with our Amps once reunited with our Warframes...with multiple Umbras in the pipeline.

Edited December 31, 2019 by (PS4)Silverback73

[Aadi880]

Since its a paradox, I assume it nothing in it will make normal sense.

Imagine the map being different every time you look away and look back.

RNG open world maps. Though, this may not seem to be a bad idea, since warframe handles procedurally generated maps quite well.

Since there is a view of the Zariman 10 0 in it, I think that we will have to find it, as well as having to fight "void demons" like that giant dragon that briefly appeared on screen.

About the tenno in particular, (which btw looks EXTREMELY like Hayden Tenno from Dark Sector), he appeared to be wearing a mask, which has me curious as to what that mask is supposed to represent. The paradoxal version of you appeared to know, well, "you". In the trailer, he placed a Tigris in a hole for you to get and looked at you before seemingly getting attention of something and disappearing. This can imply that that is out Future self? (Old tenno being the past of a young tenno who will be our future makes a paradox! which is kinda cool.).

I would think that this has something to do with the war against sentients, since void is forbidden to them, and given that the tenno travelled to the PoD (Plains of Duviri) via a railjack.

Also, what about wally? I assume wally will make an appearance, no? Our tenno currently lacks any memory of his time aboard the Zariman apart for a few snippets that ONLY came after the war within. What if the Duviri allows us the "re-live" our experience aboard the Zariman?

 

[Ham_Grenabe]

1 hour ago, (PS4)Silverback73 said:

Or it is the foundation for being able to use weapons along with our Amps once reunited with our Warframes...with multiple Umbras in the pipeline.

That assumes that all Umbra variants will have the same operate-on-its-own passive as Umbral Excal. Do we know that to be the case?

Edited December 31, 2019 by Ham_Grenabe

[Arkandae]

il y a 56 minutes, Aadi880 a dit :

Since its a paradox, I assume it nothing in it will make normal sense.

Couldn't find the original source, but it's related to the twin paradox :

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1115148-operator-aging-in-the-duviri-paradox/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-10999880

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1123817-post-screenshots-of-the-stuff-steve-showed-on-his-current-stream/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-10999483

 

 

il y a 52 minutes, Aadi880 a dit :

he appeared to be wearing a mask, which has me curious as to what that mask is supposed to represent

It's a Duviri mask, it's on the concept art :

 

 

[Aadi880]

5 minutes ago, Arkandae said:

It's a Duviri mask, it's on the concept art :

 

 

That looks like Ballas.

Right arm is WAY longer than the left arm.

[(PSN)Hiero_Glyph]

Time is only linear because that is how we perceive it. Gravity and other sources can affect how time is perceived. So it is possible that being cut off from the Void will affect time in some way.

[nslay]

Adult Operators will need coffee energy to operate, and even then, after 30 minutes of the mission, it's like -50% damage/efficiency owing to boredom debuffs.

[(PSN)Ikkoronly]

On 2019-12-30 at 11:30 PM, Dreadwire said:

Let's just wait another 2 years shall we 

It's 2021 and we still haven't gotten this??? What the hell DE?

[Kaotyke]

2 minutes ago, (PSN)Ikkoronly said:

It's 2021 and we still haven't gotten this??? What the hell DE?

Yeah. How dare they. COVID was a lie and abiding by the Canadian Law by working from home is not an excuse. Specially the last one, Canadians are nice, they have no need for laws.

[Loza03]

13 hours ago, (PSN)Ikkoronly said:

It's 2021 and we still haven't gotten this??? What the hell DE?

Duviri was shown off in the concept phase, not in a phase that even *had* gameplay. Which is way before most games are shown off these days.

 

See also, Kingdom Hearts 3.

[(PSN)Vexx757]

I have Idea on how the operator will be able to switch ages but I will talk about that at a later date but for now here is what I would like to see in Duviri Paradox.

Spoiler

·       An interesting quest that’s similar to the war within that`s about the operators and their origin.

·       Some interesting gameplay elements the evolve around manipulating time and dimensions like a dimensional rift similar to Limbo`s abilities

·       Operators have improved movement and combat system.

·       Operators only can set foot on duviri.

·       Have game-modes that evolve around the operators and the focus schools.

·       A new focus school that are specialist in killing sentience.

·       Operators can use armour pieces and syandanas.

·       They have customised the idle animation.

·       There are more hair style options and new hair ornaments.

·       Necromechs can be used on duviri.

·       Vendors selling new amps, new suits, armour pieces, syandanas, new arcanes and idle animations as well as new necromechs and weapons.

·       New NPCs and enemies.

·       Operators have body slider to change their appearance.

·       Operators can interact and use somethings that the warframe can like fishing and mining tools.

·       Operators can use perform all emote animations as warframes.

·       Duviri is filled with creatures walking around (like in horizon) and NPC to interact with.

·       Game-modes that are given to the operators for the six main syndicated or a new operator syndicate that give you daily or weekly missions based on their creed to complete.

·       NPC`s in the open world of duviri that provide mini games for the operators e.g.

·       Have a game-mode where you have to hunt for the creatures in duviri but not like the boring conservation, where you get to hunt them down like in Horizon zero dawn.

·       You have the ability to fast travel based on the markers players put down.

·       Operators can now use K-drives.

·       There is a raid game-mode for operators where all the focus schools have a use in that game-mode.

·       Echoes of umbra is a thing, maybe even operators can move around while using your warframe.

·       Operators can perform transference on the creatures residing in duviri. A cheetah, snake bird, worm looking creature that can be used for travel to attack or travel to places that operators cannot.

·       Codex entries that give lore about the operators that you can search for there and music items to search for.

·       The open world of duviri evolves around the movement of the operators.

·       Operators to be replaces with warframe in conclave and for some new game-modes for.

·       The dash from the chimera prologue has a use in the open world.

·       Bugs that the operators have are fixed.

 

And the best of all, this....

Edited November 23, 2021 by (PSN)Vexx757

[Kaotyke]

3 hours ago, Loza03 said:

Duviri was shown off in the concept phase, not in a phase that even *had* gameplay. Which is way before most games are shown off these days.

 

See also, Kingdom Hearts 3.

Anthem, the next Warframe killer, anyone remember? A full game that was the description I bolded?

No?

Ok. 

[Loza03]

3 minutes ago, Kaotyke said:

Anthem, the next Warframe killer, anyone remember? A full game that was the description I bolded?

No?

Ok. 

Also true.

Y'know this happens an awful lot for how rarely it works out, doesn't it?

[(PSN)KCGrimReaper15]

17 hours ago, (PSN)Ikkoronly said:

It's 2021 and we still haven't gotten this??? What the hell DE?

It will come relax.. we just need to wait until DE is allowed to work in there office to be able to release it because they already said some of the work needed requires them to do it in there offices at DE.. 

So until there allowed by Canada to go back to there offices there work on this one will be on hold... but it will come just be patience..

[Kaotyke]

2 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

Also true.

Y'know this happens an awful lot for how rarely it works out, doesn't it?

I dont think most publishers/investors care for integrity more than results.

Considering that reputation and quality are directly proportional to results' monetary value/sales, one would think that giving the right time and direction to get a good result would be a priority, specially if its something like a game, its not like its a vaccine for a pandemic virus that is killing millions of people, thats at least what common sense tells me.

 

[BloodKitten]

i see railjack crews as adult operators, they can bullet jump, use basicly all the normal weapons, so it would be a matter of giving the player shields and armor to make up for the lack of warframe abilities, or operator if it would follow what was shown.

[Felsagger]

I'm interested in Duviri because:

 

1. An adult tenno can switch between two, three or four warframes since he's mature enough to do that. Maybe?

2. An adult tenno could have other abilities such as weapon holding among other things and other powers such as knowing exact enemy position. 

3. An adult tenno may use vehicles like horses or other animals or riding that centipede. Who knows? 

4. An adult tenno could provide a rich depth in story on how they evolved over time giving more insight of that lore. 

[Snake551]

The adult operators will work by switching between normal and adult version in orbiter where u select tree

on top right there will be "switch between "drifter/operator" option

they share same weapons and focus, but have different skins

simple

[(XBOX)Bloxanity2816]

On 2019-12-31 at 8:30 AM, Dreadwire said:

Let's just wait another 2 years shall we 

2 years almost over buddy