MysticDragonMage Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) SPOILERS to anyone who has not seen the Duviri Paradox trailer. the Duviri Paradox trailer featured an adult operator who has lost his tenno power and resorts to primitive weaponry like a warframe would. while some may assume that the time has come for the operator to grow up and take on the enemy without their warframes, how exactly would that work? would operator mode just not become an option for now on? well, i do have a good idea as to how they can make sense of all of this. its called the Duviri paradox, so when the operator from the trailer encountered his past self, not only is the adult operator see his past self, but his past self seems to notice his future self. this probably means that the whole Duviri Paradox has something to do with a Time Paradox. edit: or "Twin Paradox" as stated by Arkandae in comments, we may have a twin self stuck in the void. thus it does make sense in a way if we as adult operators could summon our past self's as our new operator mode. there is still the matter of us replacing our warframes though. it would be cool to choose a warframe and be able to barrow that warframe's powers. think of it like wearing our adult operators like a skin while the operator wears a unique base outfit for cosmetics. additionally it would be a very nice if the developers made various adult operator outfits based on the warframes we barrow power from or just varying adult operator outfits in general. Edited December 31, 2019 by MysticDragonMage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) I'm sorry... I fail to see where something that was only shown on Tennocon, and hasn't been released yet, is going to be spoiled... You don't even know what the hell is DE going to do with it. Spoiler No one does! Edited December 31, 2019 by Uhkretor 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadwire Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Let's just wait another 2 years shall we 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ChaosTheNerd Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Dreadwire said: Let's just wait another 2 years shall we Make that 4 with a side of [DE]layed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Cram Duahcim Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, (PS4)ChaosTheNerd said: Make that 4 with a side of [DE]layed I honestly expect it to be out by November 2020. And as to how it will work, Likely how each update with operators does, itll just be the next stage of them. I mean they changed from Second Dream to War Within, itll likely be just like that. Most will want to stay as a child....I personally want them to become adults as it will add more customization to them (facial hair etc) at least make it an option to stay/grow up with lore behind it. Edited December 31, 2019 by (XB1)Cram Duahcim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemyerelis Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, (PS4)ChaosTheNerd said: Make that 4 with a side of [DE]layed 6 yrs with [DE]layed Prime.. 😬 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I'd hazard like a slower more tactical and methodical version of our current abilities with Warframes with some sort of benefit to go with it. Perhaps they will do a callback to the old DarkSector style of combat with it and give it a few new Tenno-flavored ideas to go along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, MysticDragonMage said: the Duviri Paradox trailer featured an adult operator who has lost his tenno power and resorts to primitive weaponry like a warframe would. while some may assume that the time has come for the operator to grow up and take on the enemy without their warframes, how exactly would that work? would operator mode just not become an option for now on? well, i do have a good idea as to how they can make sense of all of this. its called the Duviri paradox, so when the operator from the trailer encountered his past self. no only is the adult operator see his past self, but his past self seems to notice his future self. this probably means that the whole Duviri Paradox has something to do with a Time Paradox. thus it does make sense in a way if we as adult operators could summon our past self's as our new operator mode. there is still the matter of us replacing our warframes though. it would be cool to choose a warframe and be able to barrow that warframe's powers. think of it like wearing our adult operators like a skin while the operator wears a unique base outfit for cosmetics. additionally it would be a very nice if the developers made various adult operator outfits based on the warframes we barrow power from or just varying adult operator outfits in general. Warframe Weapons + Grown up Tenno without Void powers = Tennoverse version of the Wild West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CopperBezel Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Aldain said: I'd hazard like a slower more tactical and methodical version of our current abilities with Warframes with some sort of benefit to go with it. Perhaps they will do a callback to the old DarkSector style of combat with it and give it a few new Tenno-flavored ideas to go along with it. I don't really see a good reason why physically aging would alter the nature of the Tenno's abilities. Since the idea behind their creation was that only the children could survive their connection to the Void with their minds intact, I kinda get the sense that with Duviri, we're going to find out that that still applies, sort of retroactively, and they're going to lose their connection to their powers entirely as adults. Otherwise there'd be no change at all. Edited December 31, 2019 by CopperBezel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 It's going to be like every sci-fi ever where you meet a future version of yourself, and then work together to change your future so the same thing doesn't happen to you. It's just going to be a part of a quest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlada91 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Maybe because its paradox we can change from young to older operator every time we want...probably something to do with big finger that we have in dojo ship... in this new open world just for mature operator we can learn what all he can do and then he can continue all that for the rest of the galaxy... probably something OP and game changing in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 A paradox involving a paradox? ...Astounding. DEs been on a kick with the RNG stats of gear like every other looter game ever. So I'm expecting armor prices, like frame parts, to be littering the void. All guns being changed and rebalanced like conclave stats so everyone has to start from zero again. They can get rid of operator mode. They can relaunch pvp here as well because nothing needs to make lore sense in the paradox. Not that it ever needed to, but they went that route. They get to play around and develop a different game basically without ever actually separating the studio. Might even be their way around autonomous control of their own content design after they sold the studio. Just make everything under the umbrella of Warframe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindigoTG Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Uhkretor said: You don't even know what the hell is DE going to do with it. Hide contents No one does! Including DE themselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Not so sure we have to think hard about this, but I may just be thinking optimistically here... We've gotten custom melee in zaws. We've gotten custom secondaries in kitguns. Still waiting on primaries. We've gotten custom companions. We're getting custom archwings for Railjack. I figured our custom Warframe would be arms, legs, torso and helmet, but it will probably just be our adult operator forms relearning to use their powers. "Relearning" here to mean, pick powers with attached health/shields/armor/energy/speed/etc. stats and slot them in to get a final product. Edited December 31, 2019 by Lost_Cartographer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickster_God_Loki Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Lost_Cartographer said: Not so sure we have to think hard about this, but I may just be thinking optimistically here... We've gotten custom melee in zaws. We've gotten custom secondaries in kitguns. Still waiting on primaries. We've gotten custom companions. We're getting custom archwings for Railjack. I hope custom primaries comes with new war since i think it fits thematically better thqn duviri. There will be tons of sentients parts lying around, might as well use them. Guns from duviri would have to be parts of our ship (zariman) glued together 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)joehan1287 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 vor 6 Stunden schrieb MysticDragonMage: it would be cool to choose a warframe and be able to barrow that warframe's powers. In the Trailer we can see that the Operator can't use his void beam. The Question is are all Void powers gone because that would mean all Warframe powers. How can the Operator use transference without his void power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dishonored Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) so adult operator will have their own gun? Edited December 31, 2019 by .OwOkin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SordidDreams Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Uhkretor said: I'm sorry... I fail to see where something that was only shown on Tennocon, and hasn't been released yet, is going to be spoiled... You don't even know what the hell is DE going to do with it. Reveal hidden contents No one does! Spoiler Not even DE. See also: Kuva Liches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netrialis Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Since Duviri Paradox will be another open-world, I assume that Adult Operator will be mode only usable in said location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SolarPhantom82 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Buggy AF that's how it will work lol. Or in 3 phases. DEs new date strategy. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsmez Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Wiping out all the progress and grind that people has done for their void powers doesnt really sound something that DE would do, if they do they would be extremely stupid. I quess there will be new content, like new chapter where those powers are not a thing and for the old content its the same. That would be the only thing that makes sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkandae Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Il y a 8 heures, MysticDragonMage a dit : its called the Duviri paradox, so when the operator from the trailer encountered his past self. Can't find the source but Steve said in a stream it was named after the twin paradox. So we have a twin, or another version of ourself stuck in the void, or something else. But it's possible that it isn't his past self in the video. Edited December 31, 2019 by Arkandae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixidron92 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 My best guess is it'd be the same as when we switched to void beam astral projection to real operators. It's gonna be an upgrade. We simply become adults and there is no turning back. We probably can still use the AMP and most likely a primary weapon, maybe a secondary one, but I doubt we can use melee. I'm guessing that in the new zone we won't be able to use our amp or our powers or perhaps we won't be able to use them temporarily until we finish a mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Lwyu Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Being able to switch between paradox's using your adult and young tenno would be pretty neat. I prefer my badass tenno as she is though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prexades Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I suspect we will be able to switch between a young and adult Tenno, which will make it a paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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