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When you infuse an ability to a frame, will the ability gets consumed? (i.e., you need to subsume another of the same frame again to get the consumed ability)

Also, can one ability be infused to two different frames?

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For those wondering, if you try putting another damage buff on one that has something similar (like Rhino or Valkyr, for instance), you can only put ONE damage buff ability on it. Rebecca just mentioned that on the second page and the main page.

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Already prepared almost all warframe...wait what

40分鐘前 , [DE]Rebecca 說:

Who is this for?
We consider this a customization system for very experienced Warframe players (Mastery Rank 15 Prerequisite).

:sadcry:

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20 minutes ago, --Q--Candy said:

This is incorrect. You have stuff like Volt - Shock there. With the Augment this is a crazy Ability to increase dmg. Can we get a limitation there too?

shhhhhhhh

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Welp, I guess I'm not participating because I'm staying Mr8. (Most likely.)

I would prefer it being locked behind really difficult quests/Test than behind Mastery but... 

Extremely sad right now.

 

I hate to say there's Mr15 that have no idea what they are doing, I'm not saying that I'm better: Far from that, but I'm also not thrash at the game either. Maybe I don't want to be high MR? Maybe I like that one number, maybe I like proving you don't need big numbers to be good at a game...?

So we should "Prove our Experience through series of difficult quests" rather than one time test.

Edited by KittyKath
I needed to add details. And grammatical errors..? I'm a derp
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What in tarnation? why you robbed Valkyr so bad? Warcry is her best skill. what the point in playing Valkyr now if everyone can have Eternal war? nat kewl, bro.

p.s Take Gauss, replace his 3 with Warcry, get +million attack speed.

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Just now, (PS4)Thealteregoroman said:

READ THE ENTIRE POST!!!

Chill OUT lmao....

No kidding on that... I read that already, and I'm already excited for a few of the ones that'll help other frames that need it, plus using Mag's pull on someone like Khora or Hydroid is just going to make single-player farming that much easier. 🙂

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I am curious; how will nourish work since it has no devoured enemies? I don't see it mentioning this subsumed version being changed to remove this requirement. Also, aren't there more damage boost abilities than just Rhino and Chroma if that is considered an issue?

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46 минут назад, [DE]Rebecca сказал:

They will live on in a Lotus flower that matches the colours of the Subsumed Warframe

I'm curious is it about default colors or custom ones? I mean, if I sacrifice a warframe that I painted would the flower take the colors I used or use warframe's default colors, ignoring my paintjob?

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50 minutes ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

THE HELMINTH: DEV WORKSHOP.

Tenno the time has come for our comprehensive Dev Workshop on The Helminth System (formerly known as ‘Helminth Chrysalis System, we reduced the name length for ‘Mouth’feel)! This Dev Workshop is subject to change, but here is everything you need to know about THE HELMINTH!

We debuted this system at TennoCon 2020 - rewatch here:

https://youtu.be/KoKO1nAk0MQ?t=1693

The Helminth System is an expansion of the Helminth room on your Orbiter - you may only know this room as an infested space that allows you to remove the Helminth Cyst. With the ‘Heart of Deimos’ Update, that’s all changing. The Helminth system enables you to customize your Warframes by infusing new Abilities in place of existing Abilities.

How does it work?
To participate in the Helminth, you must obtain the ‘Helminth Segment’. This is acquired in the Heart of Deimos in the Entrati Syndicate and is then installed on your Orbiter in the Helminth Room to begin your Helminth journey!

Once ready, there are 2 key things this System offers:

- You can replace 1 Ability per Warframe.
- Every Warframe can be Subsumed to permanently provide 1 specific Ability to Helminth.


Who is this for?
We consider this a customization system for very experienced Warframe players (Mastery Rank 15 Prerequisite). We do not intend to let newer players unlock this system. We intentionally placed the Segment deep into progression to ensure only experienced players could access the Segment and begin their journey with Helminth.


What are Resources / Secretions?
Virtually every Resource you’ve ever earned can be fed to Helminth - your stockpiles have a new home! This Feeding creates SECRETIONS, which allow you to utilize the Helminth for Ability customization.
Helminth has a diverse appetite - make sure you feed Helminth Resources they want to eat to get the best Secretion results! Your choices on what you’ve fed Helminth will determine its willingness to reward secretions - change it up for best results!
 

Permanent?
Infused Abilities are removable with the click of a button - they will stay within a given Warframe as long as you decide you want it!

Subsuming a Warframe is permanent  - only Subsume Warframes you are sure you do not want to play with. You can always re-earn or re-buy a subsumed Warframe.

 

Do Configurations matter?
You can deeply customize by only replacing Abilities on certain Configurations, as seen in the Demo! But we would like to expand this further to demonstrate just how deep you can go.

You can have 1 different Ability infused PER config!

So if you have Excalibur in the chair - you could put Shock on Configuration A, Molt on Configuration B, and Firewalker on Configuration C!

For example, if you wanted Shock applied to Excalibur on Configuration A but wanted Configuration B and Configuration C to stay default with Slash Dash, you can do so!

 

What does Ranking Helminth do?
As you feed and use the Helminth system, you will rank up! Each Rank unlocks something different - from a new power, to more Subsume Slots (max Rank Helminth = unlimited Subsume Slots), make sure you progress through the Ranks by regularly Feeding Helminth, Subsuming, and Infusing your Warframes! 


What are the Helminth Abilities?
Helminth Provides unique abilities of their own - these are subject to change before launch, but here is the current list:
 

"EMPOWER"

"Increase the power strength of your next ability."
 

“ENERGY MUNITIONS"

"Imbue your weapons with ammo efficiency."
 

"INFESTED MOBILITY"

"Increase your sprint and parkour speed."
 

"MARKED FOR DEATH"

“Stun an enemy, next damage you deal to it, will be dealt to all enemies around it."
 

"REBUILD SHIELDS"

"Instantly restore shields."
 

"PERSPICACITY"

"Your next hack will be automatic."
 

"COMPANION HEAL"

"Heal your companion and call it to your side."
 

"EXPEDITE SUFFERING"

"Hit enemies in a cone, affected enemies will have their Bleed and Toxin status removed and their remaining damage dealt in a burst."


What is Infusion?
Infusion is the process of injecting a Warframe with an Ability - whether it be one of Helminth’s own, or another Warframes. Every Warframe can receive 1 Infused ability at a time in any Ability slot (i.e you could place Shock on any of the 4 Ability slots). 

 

What is Subsuming? 
In addition to Helminth’s own Abilities, you can Subsume a Warframe to obtain 1 specific Ability permanently in Helminth’s memory (list below). We do not allow the Subsuming of any Prime Warframes, but you can Infuse Abilities on Prime Warframes! 

Subsuming is the act of permanently providing a base Warframe into the Helminth’s biology. 1 Warframe can be subsumed every 24 hours. The Warframe can be any Rank. 

What Abilities are earned on Subsuming a Warframe?

The following table outlines the current Ability a given Warframe will provide on the Subsume action. This is subject to change before launch. 

WARFRAME

ABILITY

AUGMENT

DEV NOTES

Ash

Shuriken

Seeking Shuriken

 

Atlas

Petrify

Ore Gaze

We will not create Rubble.

Banshee

Silence

Savage Silence

 

Baruuk

Lull

Endless Lullaby

 

Chroma

Elemental Ward

Everlasting Ward

 

Ember

Fire Blast

Healing Flame

 

Equinox

Rest & Rage

Calm & Frenzy

We will use Rest or Rage depending on your Energy Colour. 

Excalibur

Radial Blind

Radiant Finish

 

Frost

Ice Wave

Ice Wave Impede

 

Gara

Spectrorage

Spectrosiphon

 

Garuda

Blood Altar

n/a

 

Gauss

Thermal Sunder

n/a

 

Grendel

Nourish

n/a

Keeps the heal and give Nourish Strike only. 

Harrow

Condemn

Tribunal

 

Hildryn

Pillage

Blazing Pillage

Drains 50 Energy instead of 50 Shield. 

Hydroid

Tempest Barrage

Corroding Barrage

 

Inaros

Desiccation

Desiccation’s Curse

 

Ivara

Quiver

Empowered Quiver

Tap Cloak, Hold Noise. Augment only affects Cloak and Dashwire. 

Khora

Ensnare

n/a

 

Limbo

Banish

Rift Haven

Base Ability Change: Add ‘Cancel ability on Hold’ to let enemies out of Rift. 

Loki

Decoy

Savior Decoy

 

Mag

Pull

Greedy Pull

 

Mesa

Shooting Gallery

Muzzle Flash

 

Mirage

Eclipse

Total Eclipse

 

Nekros

Terrify

Creeping Terrify

 

Nezha

Fire Walker

Pyroclastic Flow

 

Nidus

Larva

Larva Burst

 

Nova

Null Star

Neutron Star

 

Nyx

Mind Control

Mind Freak

 

Oberon

Smite

Smite Infusion

 

Octavia

Resonator

Conductor

 

Protea

Dispensary

n/a

 

Revenant

Reave

Blinding Reave

 

Rhino

Roar

Piercing Roar

 

Saryn

Molt

Regen Molt

 

Titania

Spellbind

Spellbound Harvest

 

Trinity

Well Of Life

Pool of Life

Base Ability Buffed - Now does small amount of heal over time over a large range. If you hit the enemy, a % of the damage dealt gets converted into AoE heal. 

Valkyr

Warcry

Eternal War

 

Vauban

Tesla Nervos

Tesla Bank

 

Volt

Shock

Shock Trooper

 

Wisp

Breach Surge

n/a

 

Wukong

Defy

n/a

 

Xaku

Xata’s Whisper 

n/a

 

Zephyr

Airburst

n/a

Base Ability Buffed - now has a HOLD or TAP functionality. HOLD to receive original functionality. TAP to suck enemies in a wind Vortex. 


What are my safeguards?

Since you can remove an Ability at any time with the click of a button, you’ll be able to safely experiment with many creative combinations.

For example, if you replace Grendel’s ‘1’, your kit doesn’t really work! If you change around or re-assign Abilities already assigned to Railjack Tactical use, you simply may not have one, or have a new one in its place! If you put Hildryn’s PIllage on Inaros, you don’t get Shields, but you do get diminished Armor/Shields on enemies on cast.

It’s all up to you - have fun experimenting, Tenno!

What about Damage buffing Abilities?

As you can see, we have two Abilities that increase damage: Mirage’s Eclipse, and Rhino’s Roar. We are creating a special case for these Abilities when infused on Warframes with similar Abilities (i.e Chroma, Mirage, Rhino, Octavia). When you infuse these, you will receive a prompt that you can only have 1 Damage Buffing ability at a time, and thus you are limited to replacing said ability type. Which is to say - Damage Buffing abilities can only be swapped with Damage Buffing Abilities on Warframes that already have them. However, that limitation does not apply to the other 30+ Warframes. 

 

What exactly is going on here with the Warframe Subsuming?

Warframes that are Subsumed join the Helminth in an eternal bond. They will live on in a Lotus flower that matches the colours of the Subsumed Warframe, as a permanent honor. See below for an example of the Helminth garden after 5 Subsumes:

 

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Is ‘Helminth’ a permanent name?

Don’t like it? You can rename your Helminth at any time!

Is Helminth a Cat or Dog ‘Person’?

Well, you’ll find out… 

 

Thank you very much for reading our Dev Workshop on the upcoming Helminth Feature - see you in game on August 25 on all platforms!  

Ooh. So if I subsume... lets say, Chroma.

I GET A PERMENANT DAMAGE BUFF?!

*lens flaring maximizes*

Y O U F O O L S


*realizes that its Elemental Ward and not Vex Armor*

oh. ;-;

Edited by Cryonet2
Also forgot that it was Elemental Ward, not Vex Armour.
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One little thing I hope you can consider changing. 

Make the subsume CD 23 hours instead of 24. Like with Formas it would be a good solution to have it at 23 hours incase someone cant log in perfectly each day to subsume.

The rest looks good and I'm happy and surprised with some of the skill donations.

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1 minute ago, MoondustStar said:

No kidding on that... I read that already, and I'm already excited for a few of the ones that'll help other frames that need it, plus using Mag's pull on someone like Khora or Hydroid is just going to make single-player farming that much easier. 🙂

Yea im excited for it too but a lot of people not reading everything and immediately come in comments and screams "broken" lol....

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