Darth_Nox Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoc001 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Darth_Nox said: They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! I feel sorry for you, for thinking because of that situational passive, that it makes Prime better with that thinking, because Umbra has sentience and cant die now, it makes Umbra better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogaMC1995 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Darth_Nox said: They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! Lol you want to delete because you can't get 250 energy per orb anymore? Hunter Adrenaline is better and gives you energy not just one time but anytime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Darth_Nox said: They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! I can understand being disappointed by that, but while it was useful; it was odd as Umbra was not a prime warframe. To be fair, Excalibur prime doesn't have the possibility to be set to AI control either though; so its not inferior in either case but different. Be that as it may, I hope you are able to enjoy the warframe for what it is and use it for missions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErzaSakuretto Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I think @Darth_Nox is sarcastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 They made Umbra even more OP now that his Howl casting has been reduced 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 It might've been covered already, but are there any theories as to why Umbra could use Exalted Blade (among other things) without being controlled by a Tenno? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErzaSakuretto Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Blade said: It might've been covered already, but are there any theories as to why Umbra could use Exalted Blade (among other things) without being controlled by a Tenno? Wait, the energy of a Warframe is fueled from the Tenno? As in, the abilities from the Warframes are actually the Tenno casting them with their own energy and the Warframe is just some sort of "magnifying lens"? But what about Specters? I always thought that the Warframes had energy of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Just now, ErzaSakuretto said: Wait, the energy of a Warframe is fueled from the Tenno? As in, the abilities from the Warframes are actually the Tenno casting them with their own energy and the Warframe is just some sort of "magnifying lens"? But what about Specters? I always thought that the Warframes had energy of their own. From Vor's dialogue: "We've been wrong all this time. Tenno do not control the Warframe's divine energy. The Tenno ARE that energy. Each Warframe you control is merely a glass shaping your furious light." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Legacy---- Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Umbra seems to be a project created prior to transference, if that's the case, then it would make sense for him to have/be his own energy source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, ErzaSakuretto said: Wait, the energy of a Warframe is fueled from the Tenno? As in, the abilities from the Warframes are actually the Tenno casting them with their own energy and the Warframe is just some sort of "magnifying lens"? But what about Specters? I always thought that the Warframes had energy of their own. You notice the Tenno's energy regenerates but the WF's doesn't unless you Zenurik/Energy Pad/Whatever. I don't know if this is on purpose, but it seems that WFs have their own energy pool that is used for their powers, which they can't get from the Tenno channeling whatever thing through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Datam4ss said: You notice the Tenno's energy regenerates but the WF's doesn't unless you Zenurik/Energy Pad/Whatever. I don't know if this is on purpose, but it seems that WFs have their own energy pool that is used for their powers, which they can't get from the Tenno channeling whatever thing through them. think of it as a battery and tenno is tapped into a wire via the void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diarist Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Amazing how big this thread has gotten. Even Plains didn't get as much discussion and hype as Umbra. Its awesome I'm just gonna gush in this post if no one minds haha I love, LOVE how Umbra was implemented and I love the implications. I love how the Umbra Mods are exclusive (kind of anyway) to him and give him (and presumably future umbras) those anti-Sentient perks. REALLY reminiscent of raid armor in Destiny that would give perks vs Fallen perks vs Vex etc etc so you could do better in the raid. Assuming this will be the same premise but with the Tau System. The whole implication of us going to Tau, Tau hopefully being the endgame we've always needed, etc. It gives me warm fuzzy feelings. Umbra Excal is my new fav frame easily too. Love him. Worth the wait for sure. Cheers DE ❤️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Diarist said: Amazing how big this thread has gotten. Even Plains didn't get as much discussion and hype as Umbra. Its awesome I'm just gonna gush in this post if no one minds haha I love, LOVE how Umbra was implemented and I love the implications. I love how the Umbra Mods are exclusive (kind of anyway) to him and give him (and presumably future umbras) those anti-Sentient perks. REALLY reminiscent of raid armor in Destiny that would give perks vs Fallen perks vs Vex etc etc so you could do better in the raid. Assuming this will be the same premise but with the Tau System. The whole implication of us going to Tau, Tau hopefully being the endgame we've always needed, etc. It gives me warm fuzzy feelings. Umbra Excal is my new fav frame easily too. Love him. Worth the wait for sure. Cheers DE ❤️ Agree with everything here. I went into the quest with admittedly unrealistically high expectations of the quest. "Was this worth 3 years waiting for Umbra?" Yes. I love the frame and I love how he has turned out. I love that DE gave him his own story, his own character, and I feel like for the first time me and my Warframe are actually a team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Blade said: Agree with everything here. I went into the quest with admittedly unrealistically high expectations of the quest. "Was this worth 3 years waiting for Umbra?" Yes. I love the frame and I love how he has turned out. I love that DE gave him his own story, his own character, and I feel like for the first time me and my Warframe are actually a team. I really liked it when he saved you from the sentients. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, CaptainStrawberry said: I really liked it when he saved you from the sentients. That was definitely a highlight of the quest for me. Hope we get to see more of that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koldraxon-732 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Now that I have Umbra and experienced using him, here's a few Captura Screens and a build: Spoiler Captura screens: Kol-Sworn. Spoiler Hunhow's Shadow. Spoiler Default. Spoiler Default (as potential glyphs if DE is accepting any). Spoiler Build: Spoiler Before you continue, know that the Aura mod and Arcanes are not essential to this build. If you want more energy capacity, supplant Streamline with Primed Flow and Hunter Adrenaline with Rage. Spoiler My only gripes with Umbra are: 1: his bigger forearm 'U crescent' isn't properly attached to the forearm; this needs fixing immediately as it is a glaring imperfection. 2: that his cosmetics cannot be toggled off for skins that aren't his default. 3: no Pakal Loincloth or helmet to complete the Stalker theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellakey Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, ErzaSakuretto said: I think @Darth_Nox is sarcastic... What? No. It's obviously you who does not understand colloquial cues. @Darth_Nox is definitely genuine... definitely... definitely. Edited June 20, 2018 by Tellakey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Umbra looks really cool without a chest piece and a Syndana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 i have a feeling there is some big sentient event or quest coming , gonna need more umbras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupisV0lk Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, CaptainStrawberry said: Umbra looks really cool without a chest piece and a Syndana Yep. looks even cooler if you have a red scarf and you use lighter colours for his frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: i have a feeling there is some big sentient event or quest coming , gonna need more umbras Remember last TennoCon? I wonder when will this come our way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, NightmareT12 said: Remember last TennoCon? I wonder when will this come our way... ive actually got that in a working theory of why i think more umbra -anti sentient- frames are needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 hours ago, NightmareT12 said: Remember last TennoCon? I wonder when will this come our way... I'm not expecting this any time soon given it was still in pencil sketch stages upon reveal (along with the fact Keith admitted making a tileset around one still very mysterious faction is quite difficult. The Sacrifice's ending has given me a shred of hope, however, that they finally have an idea down (unless they bit off more than they could chew again). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 given what we know and current developments of sacrifice i think its safe to presume more sentient incursions are on the way and we will need the umbra/sacrificial mods to help combat it Sentient outpost(s?) Spoiler and that there is numerous sentient units we know in dev, along with new units weve seen Spoiler and now we know of a sentient warframe is in the works #36 revenant aka vlad , makes me think more sentient themed zone/battles are on horizion Spoiler https://giant.gfycat.com/MarvelousHiddenCrow.webm given that the point of the umbra mods seem to stem from "anti-sentient" and provide buffs to deal with them seems a indication of confrontation with them or need for them so my thinking is we the tenno will have to start hunting sentient and or obtain more umbra frames [ saving them from their troubled pasts] and obtain greater and greater power to combat growing sentient threat to the system roughly any player who has done the natah/tsd will know of the confrontation and have fought them, so stands to reason worlds/zones above that might be open to sentient attack and maybe a sentient event? just something that ive been contemplating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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