Purging spy missions - a Sortie fail rant

[Sjelden]

Today, I was running the sorties with randoms.

Normally, I only run with friends to avoid mishaps, but I was off doing something else and came home late, so I missed the party. Would be ok, I figgured and ran with a public group. The first mission was a rescue so that went well. The second was a spy mission.

I run Ivara with Infiltrate for Spy missions myself.

 

First group, some random runs in and fails B, sets off Purge.

Allright, one more attempt. Before we start the group, I ask if the can please avoid entering the area unless theyre equipped for the job. I dont mind doing it and allowing others to just join - just dont sabotage the mission.

I ended up in a group with three friends.

One of them runs off and dies to a bombarder. I stop to res, but probably shouldnt have. Once hes back on his feet, the bombardier takes me out oneshot.

One of the other groupmembers kindly res me, but someone runs off into A, sets off purge and dies.

 

Then, one of them spends the next 5 minutes yelling at me for messing up the mission. *sigh*

I repeatedly tell the confused soul that hes wrong - and he eventually apologizes, admitting one of his friends "came clean".

I sent the other two a whisper, only to inspect profile. At this point I was curious who these guys was. One of them had me on ignore.

 

What a strange thing. I suggest they hang back and let me do the job, they mess up, yell at me, and put me on ignore.

Internet I guess.

Edited July 2, 2017 by Sjelden

[Tesseract7777]

Quick thing here: Not supposed to name names of people who you may have any negative story about, or who may not want their names shared, against the forum rules so you might want to edit it out. 

My suggestion? Do what I do. I got tired of randoms messing up public spy missions, so I only do them with solo or friends and clannies that are super well known to me, so I know they can even manage to get through still if they make a mistake -- and I have Life Support to slow it down for them. 

In PUG's, I just don't waste my time anymore. I suggest you do the same. 

[(XBOX)eibonMadness]

I agree with Tesseract7777, I only due spy missions solo. It avoids the other players doing such things. And if you do mess up, you know exactly who's fault it is 

[N64Gamefreak]

First sortie spy today, I went Public.  I hacked A, someone else failed B, and the timer was going off on C at the time B failed.  Randoms FTL.

[Sjelden]

Thanks for the heads up - edited the post. And yes - will stay clear of public Spy missions in the future.

But its kind of sad you have to really.

I dont mind people not knowing what to do (most of the time Im that guy) - but I am anoyed people refuse to read chat.

Edited July 2, 2017 by Sjelden

[Aurea_Hiigara]

11 minutes ago, (Xbox One)eibonMadness said:

And if you do mess up, you know exactly who's fault it is 

DE?

[Tesseract7777]

11 minutes ago, Sjelden said:

Thanks for the heads up - edited the post. And yes - will stay clear of public Spy missions in the future.

But its kind of sad you have to really.

I dont mind people not knowing what to do (most of the time Im that guy) - but I am anoyed people refuse to read chat.

I think some people are also just overconfident, they think: "I got this" *charges on in, trips the alarm* then wonders what happened. 

Very common trait in young gamers is undeserved and reckless overconfidence. 

[pnellesen]

I use Limbo to solo Spy and Rescue sorties. It sometimes takes  me 2 or 3 attempts, but still faster than pugging. And I only have myself to blame when I fail.

[Sjelden]

2 minutes ago, Tesseract7777 said:

I think some people are also just overconfident, they think: "I got this" *charges on in, trips the alarm* then wonders what happened. 

Very common trait in young gamers is undeserved and reckless overconfidence. 

I do indeed belive you are correct, sir.

[SeaUrchins]

So, you were ressing a downed teammate on Ivara and didn't bother to cloak yourself with invis arrow? So pro.

[(XBOX)ThermalStone]

Bad players want to put their own stamp on the game so they can feel important.  That's why they rush or try to be helpful in when they have no idea what they are doing.  It happens in every game mode, we just notice it in spy because of the instant fail.

[Azurian-Draguard]

Soo , you don't want Spy Missions in Sorties?

When a Spy Mission is next on the Sortie list , EXPECT to see the whole team disband which well , yeah it's better to run it solo rather than deal with what you just went through.

Otherwise if you choose to run it publicly with a group of randoms you risk "that"  just people don't bring the regular Liset Ordis Air Support thing to help assist for Spy and Rescue missions which will stall the purge / execution timer.

[Sjelden]

4 minutes ago, SeaUrchins said:

So, you were ressing a downed teammate on Ivara and didn't bother to cloak yourself with invis arrow? So pro.

I never said I was. If your purpose of this post was to give a tip on how to avoid a mishap in the future - thanks.

If it was trolling, I dont mind you walk into another post (or forum for that matter). Your tone indicate it could be either.

[SeaUrchins]

My post was a hint that being not as skilled as you want to present yourself you should not jump on the high horse and judge others who fail, naming and shaming them on forums.

'cos when you point a finger at someone, you point  three back at yourself.

Edited July 2, 2017 by SeaUrchins

[KIREEK]

No matter what mission, you must do things on your own, a survival you need to have the fighting power of an entire team, do not be confused with prime warframes and high MR, as soon you trow them into a eximus sortie 1, you will quickly realise that many of these players can't hold on their own, yet many do request harder missions.

Spy missions due to the nature of it, don't allow you to hack all 3 before the others can mess things up, you can always go with a volt, but many players have mastered parkour very well and won't allow you to things by yourself, so the best solution is to solo, it greatly increases your skill and improves success %, tell me, 3 spys for 1 success is 33% success rate, imagine this over the course let's say 300 sorties, that will quickly add up.

Solo does take more time, so carefull with moon spys.

Edited July 2, 2017 by KIREEK

[Sjelden]

2 minutes ago, SeaUrchins said:

My post was a hint that being not as skilled as you want to present yourself you should not jump on the high horse and judge others who fail, naming and shaming them on forums.

'cos when you point a finger at someone, you point  three back at yourself.

Then your point is in the lands of trolling in my opinion.

 

Not knowing all the mechanics and elegant tricks of the game - and failing a public spy mission that ultimately leads to a failed mission, is two quite different things.

It was never my intention to give the impression I knew or could more than I can. I even posted that I am often the guy who do mistakes (in a subsequent post) - it was a rant about peoples behaviour - not about peoples knowledge or skill in the game.

For the remainder of this thread, I will assume youre a troll, and ignore you as such.

[Miser_able]

I solo all of my sorties because I got tired of stuff like this. 

[Sjelden]

3 minutes ago, KIREEK said:

No matter what mission, you must do things on your own, a survival you need to have the fighting power of an entire team, do not be confused with prime warframes and high MR, as soon you trow them into a eximus sortie 1, you will quickly realise that many of these players can't hold on their own, yet many do request harder missions.

Spy missions due to the nature of it, don't allow you to hack all 3 before the others can mess things up, you can always go with a volt, but many players have mastered parkour very well and won't allow you to things by yourself, so the best solution is to solo, it greatly increases your skill and improves success %, tell me, 3 spys for 1 success is 33% success rate, imagine this over the course let's say 300 sorties, that will quickly add up.

Solo does take more time, so carefull with moon spys.

Very true, and thanks for the tip about moon missions. Have had the pleassure of running some of those outside sorties - they up the game abit there.

[(PSN)thowed]

Set to solo grab Loki and 10 mins later im done.  This is the only way I do sortie spy missions anymore.

[Rawbeard]

always solo spy, or any mission that someone can mess up

[(PSN)robotwars7]

1 hour ago, Sjelden said:

Would be ok, I figgured and ran with a public group.

yeah, it was at this point where you screwed up. no matter how desperate you are, NEVER do a Spy mission with randoms, it's the Warframe equivalent of putting a spoon in a microwave. just.... don't do it again in future, you'll be much happier.

 

[schilds]

I pub spies all the time, mostly don't have a problem.

[Hypernaut1]

I guess I'm usually good enough to to compensate for bad teammates in a bad spy sortie. I do them in pugs no problem because it's usually faster. There community seems to have gotten them down for the most part...(except lua)

[MystMan]

Being paired with good & bad players in pub spy missions is RNG by itself.

[Mak_Gohae]

run pugs all the time. 

Just do your job and that's it. If some one else fails it's not your fault. And try again cause, remember, it's a game.