Shrine of the Eidolon: Hotfix 22.13.4

[mrhat.lf]

48 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

• Increased the Beam weapon Damage ramp up time from 0.8 to 1 second.
• Fixed Beam weapon Damage ramp up not happening per target.

 

• Convectrix Alt Fire beams now continuously sweep back and forth.

uh huh.

[Horonelius]

50 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

• Increased the Beam weapon Damage ramp up time from 0.8 to 1 second.
• Fixed Beam weapon Damage ramp up not happening per target.

I assume this was done because the Amprex was reaming everything, but how about everything else?
DE making a leap before checking how wide or deep the chasm is. Haven't seen that before.

[Yetman]

52 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

Fixed Beam weapon Damage ramp up not happening per target.

 

[--Q--Ascended-Seraphim]

53 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

Shrine of the Eidolon: Hotfix 22.13.4

Beam Weapon Changes and Fixes:

• Increased the Beam weapon Damage ramp up time from 0.8 to 1 second.
• Fixed Beam weapon Damage ramp up not happening per target.
• Convectrix Alt Fire beams now continuously sweep back and forth.
• Fixed the Convectrix showing different Ammo types between fire modes. (Alt-fire is now using Shotgun shells like Primary fire)
• Fixed Convectrix beams visually crossing each other.
• Panthera Alt Fire now consumes 1 Ammo instead of 4.
• Fixed the Panthera Alt Fire consuming Ammo when hitting surfaces other than enemies.

Advanced Plains Map Changes for Controller Interactions:

• Right analog stick now controls Map zoom.
• Left analog stick now controls Map pan.

Invasion Changes:
With the precedent already set from Fissure missions for rewarding per normal endless cycle, Invasions felt strenuous due to their lengthy mission completion requirements. Considering there are other “faster” mission types available to get your reward and get out, it was time to cut back a bit on the way 'endless' variants work within the system. As a result, the following mission completion requirements have been scaled back: 

• Defense from 10 waves to 5 waves
• Survival from 10 minutes to 5 minutes
• Interception from 2 rounds to 1 round
• Excavation from 1000 Cryotic to 500 Cryotic

Changes:

• Improved and enhanced audio feedback when hitting enemies with Beam weapons.
• Improved Eidolon Lure following/positioning logic to prevent them getting right up in your face and disrupting your view.
• Swapped the mesh of the Gantulyst dome Shield to solve collision issues with certain projectile types when shooting inside.
• Enabled near culling on Eidolon bushes to reduce visual clutter during combat. You will now notice foliage fading from view when in the thick of it.
• Disabled special Idle animations when customizing your Warframe Appearance in Arsenal. If a special animation is running when you enter the Appearance screen, it will continue until it's done and further special idle animations will not be played.
• Removed the “while sliding” and “undetected” requirement for the "Kill X Dargyns with a Bow" Riven challenge to alleviate some frustrations. Any existing challenges with this requirement will revert into one without it.
• Drivable Dargyns that are commandeered by Pilots now count towards the "Kill X Dargyns with a Bow" Riven challenge.
• Restored the weapon trails that were removed from the greatsword/heavy blade Tennogen skins.
• Picking up a Cetus Wisp will now display the same special UI message like when you pick up an Argon Crystal.
• The Solida Syandana now has a visual ‘barrel spin’ animation.
• Changed Archwing Pursuit rewards to be one static drop table instead of rotations that never really functioned.

Fixes:

• Fixed losing gained Affinity on your Pet/Sentinel if you leave the Plains as the Operator.
• Fixed Arcanes working inconsistently on Exalted Abilities (Excalibur’s Exalted Blade, etc) or Weapon Abilities (Titania’s Razorwing, etc).
• Fixed Sentients encountered in Octavia’s Anthem quest dropping unintended rewards. Only Sentients encountered in normal gameplay situations are intended to drop rewards like Sentient Cores, Mods, etc.
• Fixed not respawning in The Index if you die just as the Wager is met as reported here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/7z6o6j/permament_death_in_index_bug/  
• Fixed losing your Credit investment in The Index if you win the match but don’t meet the Wager target. It now matches the UI description as reported here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/7z6mmg/fix_the_in_game_description_on_the_index/
• Fixed the Panthera Primary Fire displaying fall-off damage stats in the Arsenal when the projectile doesn’t actually have fall-off damage.
• Fixed Ammo not being consumed when reloading the Strun and Transferring to the Operator simultaneously. 
• Fixed some issues reported with the Hema Ammo mechanic. Essentially increasing Clip size Mods or reducing max Ammo Mods would affect the Ammo pool leading to incomplete clip reloads. Also, the Ammo pool could get into a bad state if you were knocked back/down while in the reload animation.
• Fixed Focus Lens icons not displaying the respective Focus symbol inside the Lens.
• Fixed overlapping UI popup when collecting rewards dropped from the Teralysts. 
• Fixed Melee weapons that are lit with an Elemental FX appearing to have hard visual edges (commonly seen in dark lit environments like the Orokin Derelict).
• Fixed cases where customizing your Warframe Appearance in the Arsenal can cause the Warframe to leave the unarmed state.
• Fixed some TennoGen items having a giftable option in the Market. Upon selecting this it would fail and not charge you the respective Platinum.
• Fixed cases where the Tarna Planter Decoration would disappear.
• Fixed Pigments not appearing when attempting to search them in the Inventory menu.
• Fixed the Chat cursor falling behind or forward if text is scaled above 100.
• Fixed a script error while in Captura.  

Conclave Changes:

• Reduced the Damage of all Beam weapons in Conclave.
• Reduced the Damage of the AkJagara in Conclave. 

*Please note that we are aware of reported Sarpa issues, and are working to reproduce and resolve those.
 

Punch through mods do not work on panthera primary fire... :(

[LazyBunnyKiera]

So am i to understand the the beam weapon's per enemy ramp up time, meaning if i come off the target, even for a moment, or switch targets, it's going to have to ramp up all over again, even if the trigger is held.
Could you imagine if other assault rifles were like that? The Gorgon for example, where every time you switch targets, it has to spool up to full speed? Doesn't this entirely mess up weapons such as the Amprex that arc between enemies, since the other enemies aren't the main target?

[MunsuLight]

il y a 7 minutes, IceColdHawk a dit :

Sounds like a fair fix but, i highly doubt it's intended for atomos and amprex arc-beams to deal pitiful damage? They almost completely lost their unique feature due to this. I hope this can get a further look at. Other than that, really nice beam weapon buffs!

Just tested this in the Simulacrum .. Atomos ramp up damage is only on the first Target.. Not those that the chaining effect hit.. RIP Atomos and Amprex...

[ilovechicken8]

Lmao all that work put in trying to make beam weapons viable again only to throw them all in the trash a day later. Classic.

[Wes8670]

Just now, --Q--Ascended-Seraphim said:

Punch through mods do not work on panthera primary fire... :(

Well...they do!...just only through things like shield lancer shields, and actual terrain/barriers but you and I both know punch through does not equal bouncing off enemies. Been on about this one for awhile so strap in its gonna be another year -OR- more!

[Thunderspank]

Was the ignis/ignis wraith flame/energy effect fixed?  Last I checked prior to patch was that I can't see the thing at all.  Invisible flames?

[Levanthan]

Atlas' rubbles aren't affected by vacuum and it feels really bad having to manually pick them up with how they tend to blend in with the background and spawn in mid air at times.

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

• Defense from 10 waves to 5 waves
• Survival from 10 minutes to 5 minutes
• Interception from 2 rounds to 1 round
• Excavation from 1000 Cryotic to 500 Cryotic

Serious?  Are we playing Warframe or are we punching a time card?  Please tell me the threats will be significant enough to actually cause a potential failure on the part of the players.  Being rewarded for simply showing up is not at all rewarding.

[dbomb801]

I was so happy with the changes to beam weapons originally.. Not even sure how much forma i just wasted in such a short time.. RIP beam weapons.. back to using the same old weapons everyone else uses I guess

[ReDRoS]

il y a 3 minutes, --Q--Ascended-Seraphim a dit :

Punch through mods do not work on panthera primary fire... :(

and on the phage, although 1 meter of piercing in the sink was

[Tyfyter2002]

17 minutes ago, -QUILL_PETER- said:

That's great, but the Primary fire needs to do that that too. Pretty please.

that would make the primary and alt fires the same exact thing when the alt fire has already been massively nerfed in this update

[OvisCaedo]

Wow. It did seem like beam weapons were sounding pretty good now, but that is certainly a very obnoxious sounding nerf.

[--Q--Ascended-Seraphim]

1 minute ago, Wes8670 said:

Well...they do!...just only through things like shield lancer shields, and actual terrain/barriers but you and I both know punch through does not equal bouncing off enemies. Been on about this one for awhile so strap in its gonna be another year -OR- more!

We need to get DE to fix this since they are already looking at the panthera..

@[DE]Megan please

[Wes8670]

Just now, --Q--Ascended-Seraphim said:

We need to get DE to fix this since they are already looking at the panthera..

Well I mean, you can check my post on the 2nd page of this thread, very bottom. I've been on about the punch through not working for about a year or more now since I made my Panthera, and even tacked on a nice little addition with the disarming purity working on secondary/pistol alt fires while you have the Panthera equipped but nothing's come of it even with the previous Panthera buffs in primary or now in secondary fire tweaking so...like I said, it'll be at least another year or more if we're lucky. Sorry DE but at this point, its pretty much true.

[0meg4x]

 Can't shoot corpses with the Amprex and Atomos to make the Beam bounce now.

 I guess you forgot to mention that here xD

[Thunderspank]

Just checked and the Ignis/Wraith variant still has INVISIBLE energy effect.  Please fix that and get rid of the ramp up time increase, you guys just broke beam weapons again! 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, [DE]Megan said:

• Increased the Beam weapon Damage ramp up time from 0.8 to 1 second.
• Fixed Beam weapon Damage ramp up not happening per target.

That is a stupid change.  Now beam weapons will do 10% of their damage, to everything that gets hit, regardless of holding the trigger down for a long time.  It's bad enough that these weapons have horrible ammo economy as is.  Now they have horrible ammo economy and dumpster-fire-quality damage that's worse than before the original balancing pass.

[MunsuLight]

il y a 10 minutes, LazyBunnyKiera a dit :

So am i to understand the the beam weapon's per enemy ramp up time, meaning if i come off the target, even for a moment, or switch targets, it's going to have to ramp up all over again, even if the trigger is held.
Could you imagine if other assault rifles were like that? The Gorgon for example, where every time you switch targets, it has to spool up to full speed? Doesn't this entirely mess up weapons such as the Amprex that arc between enemies, since the other enemies aren't the main target?

This does mess up with the Arc between target  because it does with the Atomos ..  

All the efforts they have done..  Not put in the garbage.. but they should revert at least the "targeting" thing..  Ramp up taking 0,2 sec more is alright 

[Lythael]

Called it

The beam buff was too good to be true i knew it they gonna release a nerf that had 0 thought put into it that will ruin all beam weapons again reducing them back to trash tier

[MechaTails]

Thanks for the Panthera fix!

Also, still no fix for these:

 

[Leqesai]

16 minutes ago, --Q--Ascended-Seraphim said:

Punch through mods do not work on panthera primary fire... :(

Learn to not quote the entire first post on something like this. No one wants to scroll through block text yo!

[MrFaithZ]

Thanks! Finally I can do invasion more efficiently now