ChaoticEdge Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I don't see ppl using the Gaze chamber is it that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Do not worry, here in the forum we will see a rare species of players who play from Gaze coming to attack you, protect yourself. (I said the same thing at the time and was attacked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 No, it just seems to like alot of gazing to do it's job...so much so it's like a long stare instead. Ain't nobody got time for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssh83 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 It's because you're not looking hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 The Gaze only becomes more useful than the other Kitguns when you hit elitist epeen wank levels of enemy. So there is no point in using it for pubs and 99% of content, pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just now, Datam4ss said: The Gaze only becomes more useful than the other Kitguns when you hit elitist epeen wank levels of enemy. So there is no point in using it for pubs and 99% of content, pretty much. oof feel bad for the Gaze then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrotSalad Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I use it but i need to use a tanky frame when i take it or sacrifice dmg for high fire rate build/buffs as beam weapons are totally awful since the dot changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AiLuoLi- Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 No, Catchmoon is just too strong. Nerf Catchmoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallisticSalsa Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I use it to strip armor. Though Im switching to a rattleguts for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, BallisticSalsa said: I use it to strip armor. Though Im switching to a rattleguts for that. Try pox, is much better for strip armor and easy to reach 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 TBH, try Saryn, best for strip armor and outdamages guns while doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Midcall Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 acutally building one with max range (40m) and lowest range (20m) but full crit. wanted to see waht riven wwith 200% damage, 74% fire rate , 90% crit damage, -70% flight speed can do on that one. the one thing i immediately noticed while leveling those stuff is the damn small magacine size. even without lethal torrent and just riven it burns so fast trough ammo (depending on what u choose u have between 31 and 51 ammo). for me personallly what weapon needs at least 100+ ammo. but im not done with testing, maybe the ammo regen arcane ll help here. from all 4 kitguns (all with a good-very good riven) it seems to be the weakest so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 It's not bad, it's just worse compared to the other kitguns. It's still the best beam secondary if you like those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torint_man Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 The Gaze isn't bad by any stretch, but it's competing with the atomos and synoid gammacor, making investing into a Gaze kitgun redundant and arguably inferior. None of the other kitguns have an equivalent that makes them an inferior or redundant option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541K4T Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, ChaoticEdge said: I don't see ppl using the Gaze chamber is it that bad? No its not bad, the issue is ammo economy. If you can aim then its a Top-tier secondary. But it consumes ammo too fast, even without Lethal Torrent. Mag capacity and total ammo pool is quite low for a beam weapon that chews ammo that fast. Edited February 8, 2019 by 541K4T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvisCaedo Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) every beam weapon plays almost exactly the same, barring a small number of them having a gimmick. I think the Gaze probably just doesn't stand out at all even though it's probably numerically one of the stronger ones because DE wants their modular weapons to power creep out older stuff. the kitguns and arcanes seem poorly planned on some fronts, though. one of the arcanes is a joke, and two of them are based on direct headshot kills only (no status proc kills), with one of those two also being near nonfunctional indoors AND only effective on high damage-per-shot crit guns. The last arcane is an infinite ammo gimmick in a game where ammo barely exists as a concern for most content. Though some people here seem to be claiming that the gaze IS one of the rare guns that manages to have ammo problems? Edited February 8, 2019 by OvisCaedo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewarette Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I love my Gaze. Built it to have some range (usually the main issue with beam weapons), max crit and high status, it's freaking efficient tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 well, I kind of made my Gaze Kitgun Wrong (magazine too small, but otherwise a 90% CC beam, that's hard to argue with.), but the Gaze can be quite good, it's just getting the right build as with anything. if I could go back, I'd put the highest capacity chamber on mine that I could without sacrificing too much crit*. personally I like the Rattleguts most, though the Catchmoon mini-Plasmor is by far my most effective Kitgun. *yes, I am aware Status > crit for higher levels, but I usually don't go into levels over 100 as I'm not an endurance runner, and i just wanted to see if a crit-heavy beam weapon could work and be fun. turns out it can, thank you beam weapon rework! 6 hours ago, -AiLuoLi- said: No, Catchmoon is just too strong. Nerf Catchmoon. sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of several Hydrolyst kneecaps being one-hit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, 541K4T said: No its not bad, the issue is ammo economy. If you can aim then its a Top-tier secondary. But it consumes ammo too fast, even without Lethal Torrent. Mag capacity and total ammo pool is quite low for a beam weapon that chews ammo that fast. Pax Charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Datam4ss said: The Gaze only becomes more useful than the other Kitguns when you hit elitist epeen wank levels of enemy. So there is no point in using it for pubs and 99% of content, pretty much. Lol: Vulgar, triple-“adjective” levels...😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I like it, even though I built one around look and not stats, and getting a Riven for it helped a lot. Still... what hurts me more (and probably the weapon, too) it's beam range - 22 (min) - 41 (max) meters. And unless they fixed it, Gaze can't utilize «Ruinous Extension» which is just one big OOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 13 hours ago, -AiLuoLi- said: No, Catchmoon is just too strong. Nerf Catchmoon. He who smelt it ...Dealt it. (I like Rattleguts more personally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I tried making a pure status gaze to take advantage of going over the 100% status cap on beam weapons.... Cept the gaze has its status capped at 100%... frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amhiel Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I mean... If you don't have a sinoid gammacor it's cool I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541K4T Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Corvid said: Pax Charge? Well, I like to use Pax Seeker, and I have a bad habit of reloading too often. Also apart for Catchmoon, Gaze offers most constant rate of landing headshot due to its pinpoint accuracy, so ideal candidate for Pax Seeker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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