S0V3REiGN Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I think "him" is all the players crying for Excal Prime. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaShadowcry Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Just now, k1llersqu1rl said: oooorrrr... ballas forces us into the umbra, essentially enslaved, and ordis sacrifices himself to try to save us, Ordis was "Made" by Ballas, after all Hmm... I suppose that's possible, but it doesn't quite make sense in my mind. I figure that Ballas is talking to our warframe -- he and Marguilis (to a degree) were the masterminds of the warframe program. Lua bringing them strength likely refers to how the seat of our power was, up until the events of The Second ream, on Lua -- the Operator, and the Resevoir, more specifically. So, putting those things together, we get "Lua brings you strength, but you cannot defy your creator" -- which, better theories pending, I'm going to assume is Ballas basically saying to our frames, "You might be powered by the Operator, but you will obey me first." As for the "Howl all you want, it won't bring him back"... I'm not sure yet. I need to start digging into that trailer more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devildevil21 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Well, my theory is that umbra is a warframe who lost his operator. Without his operator, he was driven mad, insane, with the desire to take revenge on... you guessed it, BALLAS! And so, he will team up with US to bring down ballas and after the quest, the new mechanic we will have is to allow our operator to fight side by side with our warframe, at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, S0V3REiGN said: I think "him" is all the players crying for Excal Prime. lol I think its more "Him" is Excal Prime itself, rather than the players. Oh this is meme worthy... Edited June 11, 2018 by Kaotyke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Vauban Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Guys, a friend of mine just gave me a hint, I thing that Golden thing in the background is actually Teshin Spoiler Edited June 11, 2018 by DJ_Vauban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Guys... I played the first trailer and the new one and noticed one thing... The one talking in the new trailer... sounds like HUNHOW! Not Ballas! Edit: So... it just sounds like Hunhow, but its still Ballas... Edited June 11, 2018 by Kaotyke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Tanta Cinta Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, DJ_Vauban said: Guys, a friend of mine just gave me a hint, I thing that Golden thing in the background is actually Teshin Hide contents Dax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndocrit Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) The umbra sword sort of looks like a ninjato. Also is that Teshin committing seppuku in the background? Edited June 11, 2018 by Cyndocrit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Tanta Cinta Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kaotyke said: Guys... I played the first trailer and the new one and noticed one thing... The one talking in the new trailer... sounds like HUNHOW! Not Ballas! That’s what I first thought, but WARFRAME’s official subtitles on the trailer has it listed as Ballas talking and Umbra howling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronxito Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, (XB1)OTF SERENiTY said: That’s what I first thought, but WARFRAME’s official subtitles on the trailer has it listed as Ballas talking and Umbra howling. Could Hunhow(or a fragment of him) have taken Ballas' form? Like Lotus did long time ago to infiltrate in the orokin high spheres? In that case, Margulis/Lotus is also in danger Edited June 11, 2018 by AnGeL_KRoM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Tanta Cinta Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Just now, AnGeL_KRoM said: Could Hunhow(or a fragment of him) have taken Ballas form? Like Lotus did long time ago to infiltrate in the orokin high spheres? Ballas has remained hidden for millennia. I don’t think anyone’s been able to get to him for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronxito Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, (XB1)OTF SERENiTY said: Ballas has remained hidden for millennia. I don’t think anyone’s been able to get to him for years. But Hunhow could see in Lotus' mind while the second dream quest. So Hunhow knows how Ballas looks like. Edited June 11, 2018 by AnGeL_KRoM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)vl_Monarch_lv Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 They've shown us a bunch of accessories we'll, I assume, be getting with the Sacrifice update... but what about that weapon? It looks like a Umbra version of a nikana or maybe skana, and it looks much more ornamental in the picture, as opposed to the latest trailer. Personally, as long as I can get that new beat for my ship, I'll be happy. That's the new hotness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)AntiCaesar Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Who is him? Not Rell, Ordis, or anybody else we've seen. I think him is Test Subject 9. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 3 hours ago, (PS4)vl_Monarch_lv said: They've shown us a bunch of accessories we'll, I assume, be getting with the Sacrifice update... but what about that weapon? It looks like a Umbra version of a nikana or maybe skana, and it looks much more ornamental in the picture, as opposed to the latest trailer. Personally, as long as I can get that new beat for my ship, I'll be happy. That's the new hotness. Gonna take a guess and say that we'll get it as a reward for completing the quest in blueprint form and have to hunt down the parts like Orvius. Hopefully not, but whatever, we'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beartornado Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) The first trailer has Ballas talking about what you would give to trade places with someone (implied you're going to lose that someone) and miracles require a sacrifice. So perhaps Umbra creation has to do with the base material (person) giving themselves up save someone else, and despite their sacrifice they still lost that person. *edit* on further reflection this would make a lot of sense if Umbra was a personal project by Ballas. The Orokin are definitely not too keen on purely artificial intelligence (sentients), but they also have difficulty controlling infestation-driven frames if certain prime codex entries are any indicator. Ballas refers to both Operator and Frame with distaste "Golems controlled by Devil minds." So perhaps Umbra was his attempt to create something that required neither of the things he disliked in the mainline Warframes. A frame that was created from a biological "pure" intelligence and is driven by that person without relying on the control of infestation or a remote operator. At the very least he would transfer a pure biological intelligence into it not unlike how Cephalons are created from people. And to get someone to commit to such a life willingly would definitely require they be desperate for something in return, like saving someone else. Edited June 12, 2018 by Beartornado 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, DJ_Vauban said: Guys, a friend of mine just gave me a hint, I thing that Golden thing in the background is actually Teshin Hide contents You're right!!!! I'm guessing that Teshin is going to sacrifice himself to save the Operators, and that in the original teaser from last year, where Ballas says, "For their life, yours", Ballas is talking to Teshin. Noticed something else. Teshin is smoking in the back. Maybe he commits seppuku. Edited June 12, 2018 by A-p-o-l-l-y-o-n 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Where is Mako? Did they combust? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyx219 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, A-p-o-l-l-y-o-n said: You're right!!!! I'm guessing that Teshin is going to sacrifice himself to save the Operators, and that in the original teaser from last year, where Ballas says, "For their life, yours", Ballas is talking to Teshin. That...would be incredibly twisted, but I could see it working in an equally twisted story. Maybe Ballas is experimenting on something (i.e Umbra), and needed an operator/another operator (successive non-Tenno operator failures maybe?) for it to work and Teshin's all "Nawp, use me instead, leave the kids alone." Edited June 12, 2018 by Nyx219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyValkyr Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Teshin dying may be actually a possibility - check twitchdrops. *sadface* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LeBlingKing Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Nyx219 said: That...would be incredibly twisted, but I could see it working in an equally twisted story. Maybe Ballas is experimenting on something (i.e Umbra), and needed an operator/another operator (successive non-Tenno operator failures maybe?) for it to work and Teshin's all "Nawp, use me instead, leave the kids alone." Space Uncle, no! 😢 I just got attached to you from TWW, and now you wanna leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)AntiCaesar Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, CrazyValkyr said: Teshin dying may be actually a possibility - check twitchdrops. *sadface* That may just be a Dax statue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Wonder who the new Conclave store npc will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 hours ago, (XB1)AntiCaesar said: That may just be a Dax statue Considering in the Octavia webcomic they all wore the exact same armor and had the same weapons, it's not impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyx219 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, (PS4)LeBlingKing69 said: Space Uncle, no! 😢 I just got attached to you from TWW, and now you wanna leave? I know, right? I mean, TWW's been a while for me, but I've found him to be endearing since it. Teshin's all about honor & discipline & the like, I can see how that kind of an act would fit right in with his ethics. Trading himself to protect others wouldn't be that out of character 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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