Psianide73 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) ...due to 50% of the playerbase using it. Discuss. Edit... I'm not bothered, I favour diversity/playing things for fun. Edited October 24, 2019 by Psianide73 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 nothing to discuss because obviously we abuse the power our frame a lot. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Op weapons get nerfed ....... not surprising. Personally i prefer other weapons. When it comes to the moduler weapons i shy away from using them because they are flat ugly. Now if the code wasn't borked and skins could be used. I would be more inclined. Edited October 25, 2019 by (PS4)Kakurine2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Linntheque Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 *Puts down Catchmoon* *Picks up Tombfinger* 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, (NSW)Linntheque said: *Puts down Catchmoon* *Picks up Tombfinger* *grabbing my Gaze* (got riven mod on it). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmetnuter Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) What? Did I missed something? Like something said on stream today? Edited October 24, 2019 by elmetnuter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skiller115 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Psianide73 said: ...due to 50% of the playerbase using it. Discuss. Edit... I'm not bothered, I favour diversity/playing things for fun. Well this was entirely DE's fault what could have possibly went through their minds when they decided to make a hand held Arca Plasmor with the Crit stats of a sniper rifle?! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Is anyone really surprised? DE always bases their nerfs around useage stats. But the real problem is that this ignores that most secondaries are raging dumpster fires, and the reason catchmoon was so used was because it was one of the few that wasn't a dumpster fire. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Well good riddance, I still don't understand why DE made a secondary that makes most of the existing secondaries irrelevant. Also the 50% usage of this kitgun shows how stupidly broken it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) the Weapon is overhyped anyways, it essentially performs the worst at high Levels (Rattleguts does end up struggling the most though), and provides essentially no benefits at lower Levels. in most of the content that the 99% see, there's far more practical choices than it, due to that almost no benefits at lower Levels facet. Edited October 24, 2019 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Alot depends on what you are fighting. I find the kitguns work only for certain enemies but not universally. And again they are ugly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality52 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lion said: most secondaries are raging dumpster fires, I wouldn't say "dumpster fires", but mainly overshadowed completely due to the Catchmoon and other Kitguns. It's no wonder why when new Secondaries like the Quatz that it gets muted, aside from Mastery, in spite of how great it is. It does irk me to see how people are overreacting to it getting nerfed, as the thing should've not existed with how broken and lazy it is, and soon was. Edited October 24, 2019 by Duality52 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadeusProject Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Now we only have 6 more secundaries to nerf until everyone is running with kunais, HURRAY! We would notice a certain pattern if we had acess to the whole spreadsheet of usage and notice that we only have a few of good secundaries. "Let's see what makes this weapon so good... Nah... lets just nerf it and keep making bad ones =)" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 The only thing surprising is that it took this long for them to consider a nerf. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plagha Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 it is well known that DE does not know how to interpret the data. If players use a lot of "SOMETHING"... they think: "Oh! There's something wrong with it, let's go nerf it", instead of thinking, "Why do people use the catchmoon instead of the Seer?"... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvorax Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 can you explain WHAT is being nerfed about it? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritable_Vox Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 And unfollowed on twitch, after what happened with Fallout yesterday I just can't stomach more fun nazis. Maybe try making the other secondaries suck less before nerfing one of the only ones that doesn't into the dirt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skiller115 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, trst said: The only thing surprising is that it took this long for them to consider a nerf. They probably realized that they can't make its riven disposition any lower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Lion said: Is anyone really surprised? DE always bases their nerfs around useage stats. EXACTLY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, (PS4)Kakurine2 said: Op weapons get nerfed ....... not surprising. Personally i prefer other weapons. When it comes to the moduler weapons i shy away from using them because they are flat ugly. Now if the code wasn't borked and skins could be used. I epuld be more inclined. just emphasizes how over powered it was that it got such mad usage while being so aesthetically clashing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightBlitz Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 well, honestly, most people probably use it only cus it wipes out entire groups of enemies with no effort. and be honest, its not the case that ther other secondaries arent usable, there are plenty of usable secondaries, its just that catchmoon is so strong that it invalidates the others and too many players got used to that. well, guess I should get the popcorn, cus I wont be running out of salt for quiote some time after this 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibmobello Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Psianide73 said: ...due to 50% of the playerbase using it. Discuss. Edit... I'm not bothered, I favour diversity/playing things for fun. Maybe you mean its riven disposition, because a catchmoon can easily get over 120.000 sustained dps without a riven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Veritable_Vox said: And unfollowed on twitch, after what happened with Fallout yesterday I just can't stomach more fun nazis. Maybe try making the other secondaries suck less before nerfing one of the only ones that doesn't into the dirt. the only way they could do that would be to turn literally all secondaries into aoe weapons, needless to say that's a dumb solution for weapon diversity, and a dumb amount of wasted resources to handle the issues caused by a single weapon. but w/e you'll move on and live. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) On 2019-10-24 at 7:52 PM, Kalvorax said: can you explain WHAT is being nerfed about it? it's getting a much harsher fall off range and damage fall off, no more emptying a hall from medium distance Edited October 26, 2019 by Cubewano 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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