Ham_Grenabe Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Scruffel said: What token system? Unless you're referring to your Steam wallet being "tokens", then sure, there is one. That's pretty much it - I earn tokens from the Employer NPC, which I can spend on Tennogen. (and in fact, the real reason I'm fine with it is that artists deserve real money for their work - which paying with plat or grinding in game is most definitely not) Edited January 19, 2020 by Ham_Grenabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky5hift Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 How to grind for Tennogen skins. Step 1: Get a job. Step 2: Grind. Step 3: Grofit. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24ANGELS Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I have quite a lot of tennogen stuff myself. Having said that, for me is more an annoyance because i don't have steam on the pc i play on. I just don't see the "if we sell tennogen creators cannot get paid". Excuse me, but that doesn't make any sense. You buy platinum with real money. DE can still give money to the creators for every sale. Hell, it's even better for them since they don't have to pay steam that way. I just don't see it. Sure the initial rush will agitate the market but, It is a market and it will balance itself. The only reason i can think of DE doing this is that they have some kind of deal with Valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus230 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, 24ANGELS said: I just don't see the "if we sell tennogen creators cannot get paid". Excuse me, but that doesn't make any sense. You buy platinum with real money. DE can still give money to the creators for every sale. Not all platinum is bought. You can win free plat from various giveaways. What if someone uses free plat then? Should DE just hand out money out of their pocket? You can also get discount of platinum, and you can mix discounted platinum, with platinum from packs, with platinum from giveaways, with regular price platinum, what then? If DE calculates how much the plat purchase was worth in actual money, then it is completely random how much money the creator gets for the sale. If you get unlucky, someone with a 1000 regular plat and 200 free plat might end up spending only the free plat on your skin so you get nothing. Or they've spent only the discounted plat so you get possibly 75% less money than for regular plat sale. Besides, there are contracts in place with Steam. DE can't just start selling Tennogen for plat on PC or they will get sued 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echoes Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 hace 1 hora, markus230 dijo: What if someone uses free plat then? If I understand correctly, this free plat is not usable on products that need tradeable plat, like TennoGen since they are made by players. Yes, usable first if buying general stuff but not if you want to trade or gift. I can't say anything to everything else here since I don't know how this tennogen works, haven't read the contract on steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aadi880 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Echoes said: If I understand correctly, this free plat is not usable on products that need tradeable plat, like TennoGen since they are made by players. Yes, usable first if buying general stuff but not if you want to trade or gift. By free plat we dont mean the 50plat we can get when we a start a new account. By free plat we mean platinum aquired via trading. You dont need to spend money if You Are the receiving end. Effectively, tennogen is "free" for you. Which is what causes the conflict of interest. DE will still allow some skins upon permission of the original creators, i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echoes Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 hace 3 horas, Aadi880 dijo: By free plat we dont mean the 50plat we can get when we a start a new account. By free plat we mean platinum aquired via trading. You dont need to spend money if You Are the receiving end. Effectively, tennogen is "free" for you. Which is what causes the conflict of interest. DE will still allow some skins upon permission of the original creators, i believe. Those first 50 plat are free plat, yeah, but the plat acquired via trading is not free plat, and the game does split them when you want to trade. The free plat is the plat obtained via giveaways on streams like winning a PA or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrum Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 2020-01-14 at 4:54 AM, (XB1)I semideum said: Not everything is about getting something in return.. can't buy food with exposure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DeZaruu Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 They should raise the Platinum price for TennoGen on console, as apparently we've ungrateful players who don't think people should be paid for their work. You can farm like a few Prime sets or other rare drops - I made 2K plat since I started selling my inventory of things I didn't need the past month - I actually spent the majority on TennoGen and two Deluxe Bundles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceous Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Tennogen stuff that is old like 3-5 seasons ago and older.That stuff should be implemented into the market.If you want the latest and greatest then ya pay for it.Otherwise why let the old stuff just rot and not be enjoyed by the masses.If anything contact artist requesting release.Contact them and they give the go ahead great more of the masses enjoy their work and might encourage someone to go and spend $ on the newer stuff. Edited January 21, 2020 by Viceous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 this is funny because OP is a PS4 account and can buy Tennogen with plat. but ignoring that, you can grind for Tennogen, it's called a "job" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kittens- Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) On 2020-01-05 at 3:51 PM, (PS4)EatmyAci3 said: Its Stupid that you can grind for hours getting plat so that you can start a new nice fashion frame but all the skins are locked behind a pay wall so even though you have enough plat to buy the item guess what you cant because it needs to be bought with real money. So even though it was promised everything is free you just need to work hard enough that promise was broke and it ruined fashion framing for me If you think I'm going to spend hours and hours on third party contract work for you for free, you're not terribly bright. Edited January 22, 2020 by -Kittens- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 2020-01-06 at 10:04 AM, (PS4)Hikuro-93 said: "Ninjas play free" Fashion however is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DG-ShadowPrime Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1. Why should creators not get paid for the work that they more than likely spent hours/days/weeks on. 2. It's steam workshop, more than likely it's required to have it payable by actual money than the game's premium currency 3. It's much more simple to have it be real money than plat for calculating the cut the DE, steam and the creator gets. 4. You're on fking PS4 you don't have this issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolveYoutube Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 It kinda sucks yeah, but tennogen was made by freelance artists, so it's a little different. They're also only cosmetic, so it's not too big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)COA Altair Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 This is gold, you're on a platform where you can buy tennogen for platinum and platinum is grindable just like almost everything in warframe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)COA Altair Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 2020-01-21 at 2:59 PM, Viceous said: Tennogen stuff that is old like 3-5 seasons ago and older.That stuff should be implemented into the market.If you want the latest and greatest then ya pay for it.Otherwise why let the old stuff just rot and not be enjoyed by the masses.If anything contact artist requesting release.Contact them and they give the go ahead great more of the masses enjoy their work and might encourage someone to go and spend $ on the newer stuff. Why? There is old tennogen stuff that is quite desirable because it looks good. Artists get paid just like everyone else, they aren't going to do S#&$ for exposure because, frankly, exposure is meaningless. Go and try to buy food or pay rent with exposure. Oh right it doesn't work that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Red Dough Boy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Will your pretty skin make you better in missions? Cosmetics are nice but you should worry more about being effective before worrying about how pretty your Warframe is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)TehChubbyDugan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 And yet I'm over here wishing we had the same system PC had, where we DO shell out actual money for tennogen so that we could actually get coupons for plat and not just a one-time use coupon for one item that doesn't include boosters and bundles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSpax Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Am 8.1.2020 um 00:18 schrieb NigglesAU: I havent looked but is there an option for skin creators to make their skin actually free or offer it as free ? Limited time TennoGen Vouchers to get a skin of choice for free? I am all in. Edited February 17, 2020 by NoSpax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEKTRE76 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) I agree with the OP. I think we should be able to use Plat for anything. It is after all bought with real money. They aren't losing anything. It still goes in their budget to pay the WELL DESERVING creators. Consoles from what I hear can do this. If this is the case why are PC players alienated from this practice. I really think the DE's should answer this. The in game purchases mess up every time (for me at least). I try and buy something and then I get a 404 not found error. Then my money is in limbo. This goes for buying plat from your orbiter too. I think Ephemeras should be tradeable on the Market as well. Hell everything should except for Quest Items. Edited February 17, 2020 by SPEKTRE76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffel Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, SPEKTRE76 said: I agree with the OP. I think we should be able to use Plat for anything. It is after all bought with real money. They aren't losing anything. It still goes in their budget to pay the WELL DESERVING creators. Consoles from what I hear can do this. If this is the case why are PC players alienated from this practice. I really think the DE's should answer this. So how does Steam get their pay? That's the main reason why we have to buy it through our Wallet, it's basically a direct payment for them as they host the Workshop. But if we were to switch that to Plat, how would that work? Cause in that case, you could only buy TennoGen with Plat purchased through Steam. And sure, DE could give a fraction of what Plat is sold for TennoGen, but that's why we directly purchase it. There's no need for additional contracts. What about people trading with others? I'd imagine some people would want the Steam Plat for TennoGen, and if someone doesn't have it, what's the point of trading with them? The reason why it can be done on Console is because you're already paying the console provider with the store purchase of Plat. Basically any TennoGen purchases are already paid for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrimsonlegendx Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Steam workshop. Steam needs their cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XideBeast Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just a simple answer for this. NO, a BIGGG NO. They worked hard to give us these skins and they have the rights to get the profits. if you want to achieve Fashion Frame then pay or grind whatever available in PLat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEKTRE76 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, XideBeast said: Just a simple answer for this. NO, a BIGGG NO. They worked hard to give us these skins and they have the rights to get the profits. if you want to achieve Fashion Frame then pay or grind whatever available in PLat What about the ones they sell on consoles for Plat? It's already happening. And how would it stop them from getting paid again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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