NovusKnight Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 hey there! I have defeated around ten liches so far, and in general id say I have a good grasp on how to deal with them. I'm not having a boring time because unlike most... I am patient and don't rush things too much, meaning burnout is minimal. I have a lot of fun just dealing with the thralls. Finally, on-demand missions above level 80. I'm making this thread to share the more interesting, fun ways of beating liches, and encouraging you to do the same. These are not always super meta picks - but they sometimes are. -Max range vortex vauban. Man. where to even start with this one. Throw a vortex and a rope trap into it, and everything in your screen is sucked in and made a nonissue. Thralls and liches, interestingly, are not affected. This actually means vauban, if he has any cover at all, can freely dispatch liches and thralls with zero interference. Lacking cover he simply won't survive... True... But in things like grineer galleons this strategy is actually insanely fun and effective. - high strength adaptation shadows-of-the-dead nekros. It's quite interesting, as you can actually get close to 99% damage resistance if all your thralls are alive. They also make an amazing job at aggro-ing enemies - even the lich! Away from you. It is particularly ridiculous that you are, in a way, beating the lich at its own game, by making yourself brutally tanky while relying on minions to distract and harass enemies. With good minions (heavy gunners, hyekas) they actually shred through lich health at a decent pace, seriously bolstering your own dps. -High duration Hushed Invis Loki with a knell. Absolutely destroys the lich while never being targeted. Similar strats possible with Ivara. -Volt in general. Stuns, a shield, and some damage amp traits, while NOT being an uber tank meta frame like Chroma, make him very entertaining to use. these are some of my favorites. What are yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentiGlondi Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I use my 308% crit chance Furax Wraith to punch them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_Grenabe Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Usually I hit them with my abusively-rivened Fragor Prime, and use either Nezha or Revenant (they're the two most-unkillable lich hunter frames, although Immortal Nekros might be one to consider). I don't know if that's "fun" though - it mostly boils down to whack! whack! whack! SLAM! roll. Or if I don't roll in time, I get grabbed, thrown, and then get up and hit 'em some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmongerExtraordinare Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 liches are incompatible with "fun" by default 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetosayajin Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I level up frames from 0 to max on them.It's fun with the lv5 lich. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Matter Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, GerberaOverture said: liches are incompatible with "fun" by default I'd say most of the time this is true. I have to take a couple of day breaks from WF to enjoy the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 By running them with friends, the assorted fighting and monotony is waived when having fun with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentiGlondi Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ham_Grenabe said: I don't know if that's "fun" though - it mostly boils down to whack! whack! whack! SLAM! roll. In Warframe it's either that, or watching Saryn cast Spores once and sitting around while enemies die off-screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 i am relaxed and i dont care. everything makes fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Apoleon_amarr Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 You go afk and look at memes on your phone, it works for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, GerberaOverture said: liches are incompatible with "fun" by default Not entirely, but I don't find the lich system all that inspiring. They can be fun when combined with pre-made teams, especially clan ones, that just go out and hunt everyone's liches. MP makes everything better, yes? On one's own...not so much. I don't like them combined with other mission reqs when running solo. It's just a nuisance and PuGs can't be relied upon to get much of anything done reliably. The best time I've had with them is stalking them with Ivara in spy missions then punching their tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLOArceus Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I press 1 and 3 with Revenant a few times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BlitzKeir Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I boosted my first liche to rank 5. It was a Shildeg liche with Mag's kit and a spinning dash which it used to pursue me relentlessly whenever I wasn't in melee range. It would often setup the dash with a Pull cast. I fought it with Mesa. The fight took about 6 minutes because of the poor matchup. It was really enjoyable being forced to use the game's mechanics intelligently for once. Lured the prick into a two-tile hallway with a door, and used operator to kite him around for Peacemaker openings. Ballistic Battery headshots chunked its health, and Magus Repair kept me alive while I repositioned. Played out more like a boss fight than WF's actual bosses. Most fun I had with the game in ages (apart from Empyrean, anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbrick Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 meh.. i just use inaros and arca plasmor.. simple.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant99999 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 hours ago, GerberaOverture said: liches are incompatible with "fun" by default That's the attitude I see a lot, but although you may question my mental health, I really like Liches. In fact I like them more than, say Sorties or Tridolons or ESO, or practically half of the content in the game. They are for once focusing on the things in game I like. Searching for a specific enemy to kill instead of slaughtering everything alive, switching mission types, performing some fun finishing animations, etc. FFS that's the first time I actually considered looking what the enemy's weaknesses and resistances were. I think in the end the point is not to force yourself doing liches (or anything else for that matter) over and over, you can get burned out quickly. Well, as for frame pick, I usually do first 4 levels with Mesa, and then mostly switch to Valkyr with a Zaw heavy blade. You can as well do it with Nidus or Inaros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 using the time-honored strategy of any MMO. group up and hit it until it dies! I definitely prefer doing the hunts with others, but doing the Exterminate missions solo is quite fun, I enjoy High-level Exterminates, so the Liches were a great addition in that regard. I find most loadouts can work against a Lich if you're backed up by a group, but if you're solo and the Lich is rank 5, just take the best you can, it saves you a lot of time and pain, even if you might not enjoy it as much at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurohax Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 My favorite is high energy/efficiency Ivara with a silent, medium damage Staticor with radiation. Lure them into a room with some ramparts and a crowd and then it's time for a Thunderdome style brawl. They'll take the lich to within a sliver of parazonability, the alarms will go off to summon more enemies, the Lich will convert it's max Thralls, then kill them himself, and you can enjoy the show. The only things to know are that the enemies won't down the lich entirely (that I've seen), watch out for magical spawns from the empty room behind you, and you're still susceptible to aoes and an annoying ability that always seems to one shot my Carrier. Also, prior to the main event is a good time to get Semaris scans, since each unalerted enemy is ~300 standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 ...I didn't even know you could use "Liches" and "fun" in the same sentence without "aren't" in between them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikariwatashi Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Fun in Liches... sure. Just using Oberon with Hallowed Ground on Max Range and let the enemies go ham on the Lich xD Plus an Ivara with Steal arrow. Lean back and watch the world burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakhul Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I blow them up with my Kuva Bramma, it literally destroys them. I also use my Raksa Kubrow to make em flee in fear, yes, all liches are afraid of Raksa Kubrow Howl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--DSP--Jetstream Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 13 hours ago, NovusKnight said: I'm not having a boring time because unlike most... I am patient and don't rush things too much, meaning burnout is minimal. at this point its easy to see only some special ones can enjoy lich system XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vas_Eldryn Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Ivara, rakta dark dagger and naramon focus, enemy level does not matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindigoTG Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I put a youtube overlay over half of my screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfly85 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 hours ago, The_CMD_Shepard said: Fun in Liches... sure. Just using Oberon with Hallowed Ground on Max Range and let the enemies go ham on the Lich xD Plus an Ivara with Steal arrow. Lean back and watch the world burn. Kinda reminds me of Doom. Why waste the big baddies yourself when you can con a bunch of imps to do it for you🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRTE_Ret5o Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Baruuk slep and headshot with vectis prime Or khora XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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