minininja77 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I love railjack but damn they are killing it I will look at playing it but never again will I ever public no reason to risk it. I have a well built ship and with 3.0 I have to roll the dice everytime that I will not be trolled with naked players. hard pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaccsen Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Agreed. They just made railjack unplayable outside of friend teams or guilds. I am not going into railjack with a public groups and pray that they have levels and avionics. This will probably kill the raIljack event. Who wants to carry a bunch of people that invest nothing in railjack. I spent time investing in it and I enjoy it. I offer my ship for public groups so we have a better experience and it allows others to build themselves up. Now, we will see trolls with no mods hopping in as pilots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-Flinter Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Please explain all your problems here: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/1765-railjack-feedback-post-devstream/ Be precise, but keep yourself also short. If there's something which need a longer description use the bold or underline oprions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazero Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Can you be more specific than general doom 'n gloom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaccsen Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sazero said: Can you be more specific than general doom 'n gloom? They are removing Avionics from the railjack and adding slots on your warframe for them so avionics will not be dependent on what people bring with them and you cannot upgrade your own ship any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamazuki Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Sazero said: Can you be more specific than general doom 'n gloom? Railjack avionics are being changed to mods you equip to yourself, rather than the Railjack. The way they worded it, makes it seems like an utterly pointless change, and no mention of fixing other issues in regards to wasting energy/ammo/cool downs. Then again, not much to expect when the complaints from content creators matter more than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazero Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Well, on one hand being a crewdie boy on a maxxed out ship meant you brought very little to the table. On the other hand, all that time and effort I put into making my ship good seems somewhat wasted. Given the rich history of DE, I have serious doubts they are gonna pull this off in a way that makes Railjack better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minininja77 Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sazero said: Can you be more specific than general doom 'n gloom? Railjack avionics being stripped from the ship and placed onto the warframes, means that your ship is now just a nothing more than a "host" and totally dependent on what others bring with them. I took the time to build my ship and will now be forced if I group or public to be at the mercy of other players, at least as it stands right now if I public and get on a poorly modded ship or unmoded ship I can just leave, that will no longer be the case or at least will be much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sister-hawk Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Oh my god stop being so dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, minininja77 said: Railjack avionics being stripped from the ship and placed onto the warframes, means that your ship is now just a nothing more than a "host" and totally dependent on what others bring with them. I took the time to build my ship and will now be forced if I group or public to be at the mercy of other players, at least as it stands right now if I public and get on a poorly modded ship or unmoded ship I can just leave, that will no longer be the case or at least will be much harder. As someone who has built their rj but still needs to get into it, this certainly doesn't sound like a great change on the surface, but I don't understand rj super well yet. I would post about this in the appropriate feedback sections and make your concerns very clear. They have changed stuff before release, and after release, based on player feedback. This is the customer discussion section, they do read it sometimes, but not officially. I'm not sure what the right thread would be, but make sure to sound off in the right section and make your voice heard if you think this would hurt rj mission making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazero Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 To temper the doom a little bit, Railjack is still gonna be soloable from what I can tell. I haven't watched the stream. Railjacks generous death timer is a huge crutch, after all. It's gonna take some identity away from the railjacks unfortunately. But it was supposed to be coop focused, so I think it's a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Feels like they're dumbing it down to make it into a fancy neutral level select that everyone can participate in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Timidobserver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 What is wrong with you people lol? Railjack is dead. Nobody wants anything to do with it. It's not like they are ruining some awesome and popular game mode. It makes sense to make it more accessible and tie it into the base game so that it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeeDew Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, (XBOX)Timidobserver said: to make it more accessible To make it even more dead for people that actually play it, you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazero Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 As far as I know it's still it's own content island. They aren't implementing Squad Link as was originally planned. But maybe avionics can be put on the NPC lich's you can employ with the Command tree. So ultimately it ends up the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaml77 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jaccsen said: They are removing Avionics from the railjack and adding slots on your warframe for them so avionics will not be dependent on what people bring with them and you cannot upgrade your own ship any longer. omg! This is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Yggranya Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Really? YEEEEEEESSS! Hopefully now it will be forgotten like the rest of DEs failures, and so it will not be made mandatory in any way. Next, necramechs. Still gotta feel bad for all the time and money wasted on BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Timidobserver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, DudeeDew said: To make it even more dead for people that actually play it, you mean. At this point, ruining it for the 10 people that still play it but getting the rest of the population interested in playing it sounds like a net positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MouadSaqui Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Looks like Railjack is Heading exactly where it's supposed to go, I don't see any problem with the way DE making changes to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Timidobserver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jaccsen said: Agreed. They just made railjack unplayable outside of friend teams or guilds. I am not going into railjack with a public groups and pray that they have levels and avionics. This will probably kill the raIljack event. Who wants to carry a bunch of people that invest nothing in railjack. I spent time investing in it and I enjoy it. I offer my ship for public groups so we have a better experience and it allows others to build themselves up. Now, we will see trolls with no mods hopping in as pilots. People that invest no time into Warframes get carried all the time. People that invested no effort of Necramechs got carried in the event. Why is carrying people in Railjack any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazero Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Because the avionics you use to carry them are no longer yours to set. Imagine having to carry anyone when half your mods are dictated by your teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimzala Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 This cheese I am eating is the perfect compliment to the thread, IMO. I do need to find a bigger glass though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MouadSaqui Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, (XBOX)Timidobserver said: At this point, ruining it for the 10 people that still play it but getting the rest of the population interested in playing it sounds like a net positive. I mean, they are making it so you can crack relics in railjack now, Isn't this good news ? also, You can still get arcanes from orphix venome game mode, I don't see that comparable to PVP or Lunaro for example, Its probably gonna have its healthy player base like Eidolons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ShonOfDawn Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Honestly, of all the things they could have done, this is mind boggling. Firstly, I do not get what this is trying to accomplish. Of the very few people who play railjack, the only ones who actually host missions are those with decently built ships. So this really does not do much on the front of avoiding running into an underpowered Railjack. Also, "underpowered" in railjack is a really, really hard thing to do after the Revised update, which destroyed enemy EHP and threat. Literally the only avionic you need to complete veil missions is a max rank tether. It just weirdly decouples progression from the actual ship, which is pretty unsatisfying in a game mod that fully revolves around, you know, the ship. I also liked the UI piece for the avionics menu, but oh well, RIP that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazero Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Cracking relics is good news. Although it will be hilarious if it's still faster to run captures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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