Hejirah-Umbra Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 There's like a trillion ways to boost your power strength (yawn), you have many ways to bypass having to need high(er) efficiency (energize, steadfast, helstrum/equilibrium), there's even one arcane for duration. But we never get anything involving increasing range. Why DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewarette Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Because range is crazy powerful, 250% is already pretty OP on most frames, we definitely don't need 350%. The only area where we need increased ranges are the open worlds, but for those I'd advocate for a passive +400% range to all abilities rather than additional mods to band-aid fix that problem. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakkhar Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hejirah-Umbra said: But we never get anything involving increasing range. What do you need over 280% range for? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Leyenda-yight6 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 This was already discussed in another thread, basically the range makes many abilities too powerful, just look at what warframes like volt, saryn, equinox, gauss can do with the range we already have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hejirah-Umbra Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Zakkhar said: What do you need over 280% range for? It's not that I need that kind of range, it's about Overextended having a massive strength drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Spider_Enigma Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hejirah-Umbra said: It's not that I need that kind of range, it's about Overextended having a massive strength drain. and y shouldnt it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Just now, Hejirah-Umbra said: It's not that I need that kind of range, it's about Overextended having a massive strength drain. If it didn't it would be too strong, range is very powerful so the strength decrease is justified 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hejirah-Umbra said: Why DE? because there's a fine line between power fantasy and just being too damn powerful, and having any more range will shatter the line into a million pieces. seriously, it would be beyond busted with a lot of frames. 53 minutes ago, Hejirah-Umbra said: t's not that I need that kind of range, it's about Overextended having a massive strength drain. modding is supposed to be a process of give and take; you can't have it all ways. it's why we don't have -and probably never will get - a dedicated augment slot. Edited December 14, 2023 by (PSN)robotwars7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzorn Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 What first poster said. I think DE realized pretty early on due to Map wide CC that Ability Range was a very dangerous stat. They probably regret making the corrupted mods back in the day. 1 hour ago, (PSN)robotwars7 said: because there's a fine line between power fantasy and just being too damn powerful, and having any more range will shatter the line into a million pieces. seriously, it would be beyond busted with a lot of frames. But Octavia is still a thing =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukinoki Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Hejirah-Umbra said: There's like a trillion ways to boost your power strength (yawn), you have many ways to bypass having to need high(er) efficiency (energize, steadfast, helstrum/equilibrium), there's even one arcane for duration. But we never get anything involving increasing range. Why DE? Because our range is already way too high as it stands? I mean we have abilities with 60-80 meter radius already. That covers the vast majority of tiles in their entirety (and then some of the neighboring tiles as well!) What use could you have to go to hitting 2-4 tiles at the same time? Our map wide CC is already strong enough, we don't need a "I cast this ability and then 4 tiles over enemies are fully CCd from it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 The only way DE would give us more range would be through some new Corrupted mod with a massive downside or some overly conditional Arcane that only works for one cast. And after it ended up in the game they'd be pressured to either immediately nerf the new addition and/or start nerfing nuke abilities in some way. It's something players both don't need and aren't ready to pay the price for having. So you're just going to have to deal with the current system of only deleting the room you're currently in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Hejirah-Umbra said: It's not that I need that kind of range, it's about Overextended having a massive strength drain. ... 6 hours ago, Hejirah-Umbra said: There's like a trillion ways to boost your power strength (yawn) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkelheit Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 vor 7 Stunden schrieb Hejirah-Umbra: There's like a trillion ways to boost your power strength (yawn), you have many ways to bypass having to need high(er) efficiency (energize, steadfast, helstrum/equilibrium), there's even one arcane for duration. But we never get anything involving increasing range. Why DE? We already had that topic 2 days ago. Please search before starting new threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Rez090 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 No, we definitely need a Primed Reach at this point. Or more abilities need their base range area increased. So many abilities have a pitiful small area to affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jaggerwanderer Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 One the reason why Range is strong is because abilities can go through walls. Just look up Ember's World on Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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