awtLander Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 17 minutes ago, [DE]Rebecca said: Any partial upgrades will be refunded with equivalent Endo - so if you're like me and just haven't fully maxed that Primed Mod yet, your partial fusion won't be wasted. This also means no Fusion energy will be wasted when your Mod is fully maxed. No more eyeballing what Mods or Cores you use to prevent yourself from accidentally using extra. Hyped for the upcoming change, though i don't understand a teeny tiny thing : If, for example, I happen to own a R9 Primed Mod, will it go back to R0 after the rework or am I just paranoid about not wanting to lose all the cores i've dumped on my Primed mods ? Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-Shadowblade Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Just now, awtLander said: Hyped for the upcoming change, though i don't understand a teeny tiny thing : If, for example, I happen to own a R9 Primed Mod, will it go back to R0 after the rework or am I just paranoid about not wanting to lose all the cores i've dumped on my Primed mods ? Thanks ! They won't revert everyone's mods to 0. it just takes the overflow from going to the next rank and giving it back. You'll still have the rank 9 mod, just whatever extra put into it towards 10 will be refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drextrax9000 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 What is the ETA for the August update? And will https://warframe.com/thepath be updated soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awtLander Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Thanks for clearing things up for me, @Omega-Shadowblade ! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABAL Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I am absolutely terrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
led2012WF Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, KIREEK said: Can't wait for my stack of cores to be converted. Let's all hope that the new fusion system won't mess up with our core count/value like what happened to the keys to relics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyus Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, [DE]Rebecca said: your inventory of Cores will be converted on login! "Panic. It crept up my spine like first rising vibes of an acid frenzy. All these horrible realities began to dawn on me. " I can only hope the whole system is implemented well. My first thought was, are they going to auto junk our duplicates? That would be madness. Edited August 15, 2016 by Pyus chiefly, Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)BroaderSaucer Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This sounds sweet, hopefully we can still farm large amounts of endo on endless missions like we could r5 cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZinGrin Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 After what happened with the relic conversions, I think I need some drugs meds for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Hekovashi Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Just don't make it more grindy, like most of your recent changes does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioma Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 i hope it's a good change, and not just more grind than the previous system disguised as a more simplified system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaokasalis Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) This sounds good and all but how will this effect legendary cores? Will they be turned into a limited number of Endo? Edited August 15, 2016 by Kaokasalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Legendary cores currently are infinite fusion power, how will this translate into endo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyus Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 tfw you run out of endo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-PP-Sonicz Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) 51 minutes ago, [DE]Rebecca said: The following Dev Workshop will go into the simplification of the Fusion System. Read on to learn more about the coming changes and learn about 'ENDO'! As always, all information here is subject to rapid change. Stay updated by checking this thread! Fusion in Warframe is one of the main systems that encourages investment in your Mod collection and Upgrading your gear. With calculated clicking and collecting, you can take your unranked Mods to top tier performers. Right now our Fusion system has some confusing elements we’d like to correct. 1) Hidden complexity. There are a lot of under the hood ways to optimize fusion that aren't explained. Aside from the single usage of Fusion Cores, your Duplicate Mod collection can be used to fuse with bonuses for things like matching type, polarities, avoidance of exceeding desired rank, etc. 2) Progress Bar guessing game. There are no clear goals for next Fusion levels, all you're presented with is a bar and it's quite hard to predict how many missions and fuseable items are needed to advance ranks. This leads to a disconnect between cost benefit analysis as no cost presents itself. It boils down to an overly complex system that has unclear goalposts, and this is something we want to fix. The coming Fusion simplification will be released in 2 phases: 1) The first phase (coming in August) maintains the core loop we all know (find Fusion energy and use to rank up Mods), but it's much simpler at the Fusion level. 2) The second (coming later) will be written about in detail once we have assets to share, but essentially it is a more lore-amplifying and collection building version of Fusion. Diving deep into the quickly approaching first phase introduces us to Endo! What is Endo? Endo is Fusion energy incarnate. It is the raw resource that powers the process of Upgrading Mods. In essence, Endo serves as the simplifier in all things Fusion. All duplicate Mods can now be simply converted into Endo. Endo will now drop from enemies and missions where Fusion Cores used to. Fusing with Endo makes the Mod Rank increases clear, as the system now only increases in whole Ranks. Partial upgrading with unclear requirements towards your next rank will no longer exist, and neither will wasted Fusion energy. The UI will tell you exactly how much Endo is needed for the next Rank, which gives you a clear goal to work toward. Any partial upgrades will be refunded with equivalent Endo - so if you're like me and just haven't fully maxed that Primed Mod yet, your partial fusion won't be wasted. This also means no Fusion energy will be wasted when your Mod is fully maxed. No more eyeballing what Mods or Cores you use to prevent yourself from accidentally using extra. You can expect this first phase to come in August on PC, and your inventory of Cores will be converted on login! We'll have more information for you closer to launch so you can see the change in action and know what to expect when it hits your inventories. Can't wait! edit: Please add tutorial on the new system and introduction on youtube, perhaps have it in game so that everyone can read especially new players. Edited August 15, 2016 by -PP-Sonicz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaidGalaxy Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Sounds all nice and dandy, but if it doesn't come with a updated tutorial, then new players will be even more confused than they already are. Edited August 15, 2016 by MaidGalaxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitchrea Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 So DE just made a Fusion Core Pokeball. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)X1155752X Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, DeMonkey said: Is that an Orokin pokeball? 22 minutes ago, blazekan5 said: Looks like a pokeball to me. Looks more like some kind of Orokin gachapon machine to me, the question is would it take Platinum or Ducats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxykon Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Absolutely looking forward to fusion changes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendragon1951 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 not getting hyped till i see an exact date when it drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWolfKnight Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 So we've got Oroken Pokeballs now. Better stock up on them so we can catch those Sarynqueens, Embuskens, Chrodons and Inargriguses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 will we get less mileage for ranking mods with the conversion ? ie. a loss on fusion core raw ranking power to endo what is the conversion efficiency like.. wont really matter for veterans but it would be pretty harsh on newer players if so, they have alot of stuff to rank up and if they have a chance to rank up before the automatic conversion more efficiently they should at least have that choice / chance ah well, new endo overlord cometh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) So, will this be another tedious RNG-based grind? Please don't make it more grindy than the current system (like the new Void system). That's all I ask. Edited August 15, 2016 by AntoineFlemming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukinu_u Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Wow, this look great :O What's about Legendary core ? Because they are currently instantly max any mods. Will they be converted on the Endo required to max a legendary mod or will they be a separate item that max any mod ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSING Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Spoiler Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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