Alaeacus Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) I'll keep furthering this topic until somebody at DE comments about their stance on the issue. Please make Umbra Scarf and Crescents a toggle. It RUINS other skins. Some people want them on separate toggles or auxiliary slots, and some don't mind them being toggled all at once. I leave it up for you to decide. Many people have paid good money for Excalibur skins but did NOT want to be forced into wearing a scarf and/or Crescents with those skins. No other Prime is treated this way. If I want Rhino Prime to look exactly like Rhino, I equip the Rhino skin and NO Prime parts are showing anymore. Why does Umbra not have the most basic cosmetic features that every other warframe in this game has? This feature should have been standard right out of the gate, because it is already a standard you have set DE. You are now breaking your own standards for reasons I cannot even fathom. You hold same cosmetic rule for 56 warframes, and now you are singling out one warframe to have different rules? Why? Multiple threads asking for this very same thing below: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/974801-umbra-scarf-toggle-on-and-off/?tab=comments#comment-9909010 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/981293-editing-section-for-excal-umbra/?tab=comments#comment-9956959 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/967773-toggle-umbra-scarf/?tab=comments#comment-9861616 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/971398-please-change-umbras-scarf/?tab=comments#comment-9885645 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/977609-excalibur-umbra-assets/?tab=comments#comment-9927912 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/972008-umbras-golden-things-on-arms-legs-and-head-and-scarf/?tab=comments#comment-9889481 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/969520-give-us-the-option-to-toggle-umbra-details-ala-prime-details/?tab=comments#comment-9932128 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/971782-umbras-cosmetic-disadvantages-to-prime-warframes/?tab=comments#comment-9888140 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/975449-man-those-ugly-umbra-things-on-the-arms/?tab=comments#comment-9913570 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/967401-about-umbra-and-fashion-frame/?tab=comments#comment-9859094 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/969164-appearance-bug-excalibur-umbra-proto-armor-skin-pakal-chest-plate/?tab=comments#comment-9870239 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/968068-umbra-details-on-other-excal-skins/?tab=comments#comment-9863519 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/982657-umbras-scarf/ https://forums.warframe.com/topic/984413-ripping-off-umbras-scarfs/ https://forums.warframe.com/topic/970201-excalibur-umbra-arm-fins-clipping-with-tennogen-and-default-exalcibur-skins/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8teky4/option_to_remove_scarf_from_umbra_please/?st=jjrmmqip&sh=28f9a03f https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8rhnq7/excalibur_umbra_scarf_toggle/?st=jjrmmvai&sh=3adbaa16 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8sfevd/so_is_umbras_scarf_unremovable_because/?st=jjrmn1na&sh=18c74d6b https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8s0ayo/if_de_made_umbras_scarf_as_an_auxiliary/?st=jjrmn5d3&sh=7c20a7f2 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8rxz5o/umbra_fashion_if_you_try_to_put_an_excalibur_skin/?st=jjrmnb1h&sh=79671822 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8sg6jl/umbras_anti_syandana_design/?st=jjrmni9z&sh=3a712924 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8r7yfb/to_those_that_have_gotten_umbra_can_you_take_off/?st=jjrmnw4e&sh=4d4820d4 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8sszdh/excalibur_umbra_having_toggle_able_options/?st=jjrmo4fg&sh=b1b0f7fb https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8ruefy/anyone_else_wish_we_could_toggle_the_scarf/?st=jjrmosvl&sh=6372a6f6 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8rbpke/spoiler_can_we_get_a_toggle_umbra_bits_option/?st=jjrmpb08&sh=6f5e8b16 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8rejwc/disappointed_about_excalibur_umbra/?st=jjrmpt9i&sh=9327e61a https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/8zyzh9/de_a_small_request_for_fashion_frame_with_umbra/?st=jjrmt5r1&sh=5d333269 https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/908ccg/can_umbras_scarf_be_made_into_an_auxiliary/?st=jjswf494&sh=5ed94ab9 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/986437-excalibur-umbra-details/ https://forums.warframe.com/topic/991966-excalibur-umbra-make-scarf-auxillary/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/9kt007/suggestion_to_de_toggle_umbra_details/ https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1019798-umbra-golden-bits-and-scarf/ https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1020564-option-to-remove-umbra-scarf/ Edited October 20, 2018 by AlMcFly 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 14, 2018 Author Share Posted July 14, 2018 Bump. These are just a fraction of the topics made asking for the same thing. I think it's more productive to show DE how many topics have already been made, than to keep creating a brand new one every day that gets lost in a see of threads. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)EmperorLeachicus Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I agree with this. I love Umbra’s design, but there really isn’t any reason he should be forced to keep his prime details, just give us a toggle, like with Tennogen skins. I would, however, like to stress that I’d like for the option to toggle on/off to work with all skins, not just Tennogen ones. I quite like how the prime details look on the Dex skin, for example, and it would be a shame to lose that. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) It doesn't necessary need a toggle function but I think the scarf should go into auxiliary slot and have a separate color option. The current coloring conflicts with a lot of color schemes. Edited July 16, 2018 by Marvelous_A 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Marvelous_A said: It doesn't necessary need a toggle function but I think the scarf should go into auxiliary slot and have a separate color option. The current coloring conflicts with a lot of color schemes. Putting the Scarf in the Auxiliary Slot would definitely appease my needs as well, and make a lot of people happy. However they decide to do it, I would just like the option that all other warframes get to have. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Gem Pheenix Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I'd really like to use the corpus skin on umbra but it looks awful.. please give us the fancy part toggle the prime frames get for tennogen skins. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Hey DE, In the spirit of new Tennogen Skins being released, can we please get a fix for Umbra soon where we don't have to wear the scarves over all skins? Thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 And bump for Tennogen Update Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakuwolf Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I'd like to toggle the details AND scarf separately... because i do like a lot the scarf but not the blades on the arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuyRyou Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Possible if have option to on/off Scarf of Exca Umbra ? Because when i use skin will look like this and i dont want it :^( Edited July 18, 2018 by DuyRyou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)INSANE_GHOST_42 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Sometimes less is better. And tbh more decision on frames will only help fashion frame. So no can say no for an option to remove the scarf because that's like saying armor should not be removable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerand_Regent Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 PLEASE. I don't wanna have to use normal Excalibur just to use the Ronin skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voldjaw Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) I do totally support this! Personally I really like the style of Umbra and I'll probably keep it but his scarf as well as the Umbra-Details should be toggleable. The more customisation, the better! Am 13.7.2018 um 18:16 schrieb AlMcFly: It RUINS other skins. To say it "ruins" other skins might be a bit harsh, but it certainly is not wanted in a lot of cases. Edited July 19, 2018 by Voldjaw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthael Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) The scarf is probably there to cover an eventual Helminth cyst. ... Since, lore-wise, Umbra shouldn't be ABLE to have one. Edited July 19, 2018 by Uthael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerand_Regent Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Uthael said: The scarf is probably there to cover an eventual Helminth cyst. ... Since, lore-wise, Umbra shouldn't be ABLE to have one. That would be great if it worked that way. 😛 as it stands, the cyst just forms on top of the scarf, which implies that the scarf is....part of it's flesh...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthael Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) In that case... Off with it!!! Edited July 19, 2018 by Uthael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almagnus1 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I too would like a unique attachment point for umbra for this scarf. It's cool, but not everyone is cultured and wants the most fasionable scarf... those droll pedestrians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said: I too would like a unique attachment point for umbra for this scarf. It's cool, but not everyone is cultured and wants the most fasionable scarf... those droll pedestrians. *AlMcFly looks suspiciously at Almagnus1, wondering if he's just come face to face with a doppleganger...*. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)RETCXN Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) It makes sense, an Umbra toggle like the Prime toggle. Edited July 19, 2018 by (XB1)Robbo m8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Bump in the spirit of Fashion Frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 New Hotfix, still no Umbra details toggles. I just love my brand new Targis Prime armor clipping inside of my Scarf chest piece, which clashes (and hides) with my magnificent Ronin skin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 The model of Excal Umbra is from 2015, if not earlier. It seems like the frame's model was just ported from Chinaframe without any changes, it even had the problem of floating crescents until a recent fix. So I guess we'll just have to wait for scarf/parts toggle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 there is already a toggle: use normal or prime excal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 On 2018-07-20 at 12:41 AM, Gerand_Regent said: That would be great if it worked that way. 😛 as it stands, the cyst just forms on top of the scarf, which implies that the scarf is....part of it's flesh...? Hm, the cyst on my Umbra was completely hidden by the scarf when his head wasn't turned to the right. So the cyst was definitely growing from the neck but not the scarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rawbeard said: there is already a toggle: use normal or prime excal Imagine if they told you Limbo Prime had to keep the same hat on every one of his skins, or Loki is forced to have his vanilla helmet across every skin. Imagine Volt's arm rings have to remain vanilla, even on Prime, and cannot be colored to match the rest of the Prime skin. The scarf on Umbra does not color match with deluxe skins, while simultaneously causing most Syandanas to not work and his chest piece makes most armor sink into the body. You're being pretty discriminatory against one frame, while every single other frame in the game enjoys 100% customization with skins we pay real money for. If it doesn't affect you in any way, than you shouldn't care at all. Seems a bit petty to make facetious comments at people who feel like they are getting slighted. We are most definitely getting slighted. $20 for Targus armor that doesn't fit right. Many $'s for syandanas bought before Umbra, that do not work on Umbra. Many $'s for Excal skins bought before Umbra, that must be covered by a discolored, non-pattern body piece. What kind of person feels good about the collective misery of others? Edited July 25, 2018 by AlMcFly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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