InsuranceFraud Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) There is zero need to be concerned about Destiny 2's rising growth. Here is the bottom line: Competition is good. Yes we all love Warframe, but having a close competitor to Warframe is great. Why? It's simple, two massive hands in the pot means developers need to work harder, and produce more quality content to grab players. This year, DE has outlined a slew of content they wanted to release, theres only 3 months left in the year and we've only seen a titleset rework, a frame, and... that's about it. Going into 2020, Destiny 2 is sure to pick up some speed, now that it's F2P. Competition will make DE work harder to earn players. EDIT: FOR THE RECORD: I am not saying Destiny 2 is a better game, Warframe has a boat load of more content. HOWEVER, competition in the looter shooter market is good for us as "gamers" Edited October 15, 2019 by AshArbiter 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 True. It also could help both developers to better understand their playerbases, assuming they will listen to feedback or play the games themselves, of course. 4 minutes ago, AshArbiter said: Going into 2020, Destiny 2 is sure to pick up some speed, now that it's F2P. Competition will make DE work harder to earn players. Can confirm, 90% of my friends are playing D2 now, teaming up for Sorties in WF and then going back to D2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Did you really need to start another thread about this? You already posted in this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsuranceFraud Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thundervision said: True. It also could help both developers to better understand their playerbases, assuming they will listen to feedback or play the games themselves, of course. Can confirm, 90% of my friends are playing D2 now, teaming up for Sorties in WF and then going back to D2 Same here. Been having a blast doing D2 raids. Warframe's movement and feel is just so much better though. Hopefully Railjack knocks it out of the park so I have a reason to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitus123 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 While competition is good Destiny and Warframe provide different experiences as someone who spent almost 60 hours in Destiny 2 i have never been so frustrated grinding in a game even the worst moments in Warframe never made me this upset.I feel if people enjoy certain parts of Warframe its uniqueness,movement,power fantasy and dynamic they wont exactly enjoy Destiny because even though its a game about getting loot its moment to moment gameplay and feeling is not the same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsuranceFraud Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, (XB1)Skippy575 said: Did you really need to start another thread about this? You already posted in this one: What's wrong with making a seperate thread? This one is about how having friendly competition isn't bad for us, it's actually great. That thread is about WF hitting its lowest point in years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 There's not much competition going on honestly at least from Destiny's point of view. In terms of genre, they are somewhat similar but the approach is very different. In terms of number, Destiny 2 stomps Warframe, it has an average of 200k players at a time, Warframe's all time peak was 130k with an average of 30-50k per day. DE needs to get their guano together and stop slacking off when it comes to content releases if they want to stop bleeding players. Maybe better planned and managed projects would help, instead of spreading too thin, develop and change and develop and change and not getting anything done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsuranceFraud Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Gravitus123 said: While competition is good Destiny and Warframe provide different experiences as someone who spent almost 60 hours in Destiny 2 i have never been so frustrated grinding in a game even the worst moments in Warframe never made me this upset.I feel if people enjoy certain parts of Warframe its uniqueness,movement,power fantasy and dynamic they wont exactly enjoy Destiny because even though its a game about getting loot its moment to moment gameplay and feeling is not the same 100% Agree. Warframes movement is unmatched, and playing Destiny 2 after a few minutes, I wish I could climb up walls and crap like in WF. They both scratch a certain itch IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Agreed. For evidence: Destiny 2 itself. Seriously, if Warframe didn't exist then people looking for what Destiny delivered would have no other choice, and thus people wouldn't leave it with quite as much gusto - and thus not lead into the improvements Bungie are making. Yeah 'Rehashed content' - most games do that, especially games that have constant development. It's smart use of assets to not just make something then abandon it. When the Sentient tileset comes out, it will probably have Survival, Spy, Sabotage, most of the normal mission types. I highly doubt the set will only have exclusively 'new' stuff to it. Also see: The Second Dream came out a year after Destiny 1 released. As soon as Warframe had competition, they fully started kicking it into top gear. This isn't just some pie-in-the-sky statement, it's already happened once before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrazyBeaTzu Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I'm no genius but I'm sure if bitter warframe vets are having trouble. I can help you guys google "destiny 2 forums"..... Get your email and password ready, sign up, then you can make threads about how that game is better than your last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 But at the same time, just like every other form of "competition" Warframe has had, how long is D2's popularity going to hold and is it even competition in the first place? There is a lot yet to be seen with D2 between seeing if they'll actually change their model now that they're self-published and if it's going to continue with paid-only expansions. If old problems persist or if the fp2 section will remain as it is then players might start falling off at some point. Also judging from the reviews it has already gotten a considerable number of players are ones with hundreds to thousands of hours into the game pre-steam. The game still holds it's own dedicated fans that aren't going to be providing any actual competition. There is also the fact that the games aren't actually all that similar besides sharing the sci-fi theme and having both guns and abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsuranceFraud Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, trst said: But at the same time, just like every other form of "competition" Warframe has had, how long is D2's popularity going to hold and is it even competition in the first place? There is a lot yet to be seen with D2 between seeing if they'll actually change their model now that they're self-published and if it's going to continue with paid-only expansions. If old problems persist or if the fp2 section will remain as it is then players might start falling off at some point. Also judging from the reviews it has already gotten a considerable number of players are ones with hundreds to thousands of hours into the game pre-steam. The game still holds it's own dedicated fans that aren't going to be providing any actual competition. There is also the fact that the games aren't actually all that similar besides sharing the sci-fi theme and having both guns and abilities. I agree. Destiny 2 for sure has the leg up on pvp, that kinda combat. The paid expansions could be a barrier to some WF casuals. WF dominates in the term "fullyfree" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Salty Ginger Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 There is no competition....it would be like an Olympian signing up for a little league game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KnossosTNC Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, (PS4)CrazyBeaTzu said: I'm no genius but I'm sure if bitter warframe vets are having trouble. I can help you guys google "destiny 2 forums"..... Get your email and password ready, sign up, then you can make threads about how that game is better than your last game. Eh. Let people have their opinions, as long as it's within the rules. Only thing is such discussion might belong in Off Topic, but that's just a filing issue. For the record, I would be playing Destiny 2 myself about now - had the save transfer not wiped out my Red War campaign progress. Back to hiatus probably for the rest of 2019 while I try to get over it. Edited October 15, 2019 by KnossosTNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Yes-Man-Kablaam Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 honestly I'm not too worried as playing destiny is just frustration after frustration. they almost always have good ideas but they're too timid to give a little slack to really let it breathe. that and it's actually worse f2p wise now than it was before the change. which was already worse than how warframe does it. I have many problems with it but those are going to be the big ones that push them back down honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajochi Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) You're right, it is a bunch if burnt out salty vets making destiny threads. Honestly, I don't care for destiny because it's too slow for me and I'm not playing it because it isn't in my interests. Seeing the players that are going "hur dur destinty Warframe killer, lol XD" puts me off of it even more because it represents the destiny community in the wrong light. Edited October 15, 2019 by Sajochi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JaysInc_ Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ace-Bounty-Hunter Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 They tried to give me a free copy of Density 2 over a year ago and I told them where to shove it. I couldn't care less about the stupid game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, (PS4)CrazyBeaTzu said: I'm no genius but I'm sure if bitter warframe vets are having trouble. I can help you guys google "destiny 2 forums"..... Get your email and password ready, sign up, then you can make threads about how that game is better than your last game. Your thread post seems to be rather contradictory. "No one cares about Destiny!" "Oh and by the way, if you're bored, go play Destiny" Shall we also glide past the fact that you, as someone who apparently doesn't care about Destiny, have made a thread about Destiny? Edited October 15, 2019 by DeMonkey Merges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabbynaru Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 ...What competition? Destiny is about as much competition to Warframe as I am to any pvp player (aka not at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jarriaga Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, (PS4)CrazyBeaTzu said: I'm no genius but I'm sure if bitter warframe vets are having trouble. I can help you guys google "destiny 2 forums"..... Get your email and password ready, sign up, then you can make threads about how that game is better than your last game. Because it is impossible for one game to learn anything from another game. Warframe can not take lessons from Destiny on what Destiny has no problems with. Destiny can not take lessons from Warframe in what Warframe does better. Sounds mature and nuanced. Edited October 15, 2019 by Jarriaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JaysInc_ Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, DeMonkey said: Your thread seems to be rather contradictory. "No one cares about Destiny!" "Oh and by the way, if you're bored, go play Destiny" Shall we also glide past the fact that you, as someone who apparently doesn't care about Destiny, have made a thread about Destiny? But how is OP supposed to get his free Internet points when there's another Destiny thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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