(PSN)NachoZissou Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, (XB1)AeroTurner5150 said: Good thing first: 1) Being able to select linked items in chat is now much easier. Now for the bad things: 1) It is a lot slower to do basically anything now, even with increased cursor sensitivity (WHICH I HIGHLY RECOMMEND DOING, DEFAULT IS TERRIBLE. Set it to like 175). It now feels like I'm play a badly designed direct port from PC or as if I'm using Xbox's old Microsoft Edge app. 2) The D pad quick selection is terrible. For example, when I'm scrolling through my warframes/weapons in the foundry I should be able to do that with the D-Pad, but I can't. So what use is the D-pad if I already need to put my cursor in the window to scroll anyways?Suggestion: 1) Put the hot keys back in. When I hover over my warframe in the foundry I still expect to be able to press (Y) to go to upgrades for example. 2) Let us press Left Stick in to turn on the cursor for when we DO need it. This would be MUCH better as we get to decide when we need the cursor more on the fly. It would feel a lot more seamless than just having the option to turn it off or on in the options too. Great idea about a way to toggle between them on the fly. Just because it's not an appropriate control system for consoles doesn't mean it has no uses whatsoever, a good one is choosing linked items in the chat as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayArchon Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Steve is working on adding (bringing back?) D-pad support for menu navigation, as said on DevStream 112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)deljhpFOREVER Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Sorry to say i hate the new UI. It's a step backwards not forwards and very clunky and slow, for us console controller players. Edited June 5, 2018 by (XB1)deljhpFOREVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konaka123 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I mean...if you quit the game and expect them to fix something you don't like It's probably not going to be fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Danielle Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 3 hours ago, (XB1)AeroTurner5150 said: 2) The D pad quick selection is terrible. For example, when I'm scrolling through my warframes/weapons in the foundry I should be able to do that with the D-Pad, but I can't. So what use is the D-pad if I already need to put my cursor in the window to scroll anyways? This is something that we'll be implementing in the future! Definitely want that D-pad scrolling capability. Thanks for your feedback! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RYZEN-ARMADA Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Yes indeed. It's horrible! Maybe they mistaken it with the PC! None of DE are playing with the hardware PS4! Who has this idea? He/ she should be spanking... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NullSaint Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, konaka123 said: I mean...if you quit the game and expect them to fix something you don't like It's probably not going to be fixed And even if it is, you won't know because...you quit playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndermanBeast Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Just now, (PS4)Misar1978 said: Yes indeed. It's horrible! Maybe they mistaken it with the PC! None of DE are playing with the hardware PS4! Who has this idea? He/ she should be spanking... wat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KaBoomKush Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 This Cursor on this update is ridiculous. The original controls were practical and much better than what we have now. In my honest opinion changing it was very pointless. This slows me down so much trying to use it that it drives my anxiety through the roof. Please revert to the old UI. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Just now, NullSaint said: And even if it is, you won't know because...you quit playing. He just needed a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AperoBeltaTwo Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, SergeantSunshine said: I know it's not in the feedback category, but did you know more people will take you more seriously if you're constructive and don't over react? I've been constructive. I can vouch it doesn't work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)vl_Monarch_lv Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 It really is terrible. The cursor is fine, it can be dealt with, but the removal of the square and triangle quick buttons and the d-pad no longer moves you down the page.... wtf? Who though this was good? Did no one test this? I dub this update: Jank Prime. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RYZEN-ARMADA Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 This is so terrible! The Modding is terrible the cursor is terrible..... Iam lost. Maybe time will change but still worse! Did you forgot the console players are playing with a controller not with a mouse and keyboard! DO YOU KNOW WHAT A CONCOLE IS?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DimFre4kske Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Thanks for the update DE, it's really great, but that whole mouse thing is truly annoying. Please undo it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)reddragonhrcro Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Agree, the new UI is god awful, it makes things take way too long to do compared to before, unnecessarily complex. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)natedog4400 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 hours ago, (PS4)iQuedas said: Wait, there's no Off switch? I knew it would be the new default, but I expected at least a way to turn it off... this would allow the best of both worlds those who enjoy it can use it while those who feel it to be to bulky and slow can continue using the controler shortcuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)reddragonhrcro Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 To say the least it's absolute garbage, makes thing unnecessarily complex and takes more time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hiero_Glyph Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, [DE]Danielle said: This is something that we'll be implementing in the future! Definitely want that D-pad scrolling capability. Thanks for your feedback! Then why release this cursor update yet? Obviously it isn't close to being finished and you could have easily left the legacy UI in place while you overhauled the cursor UI in the background. Better yet if you provided a toggle between UIs then you could have gotten feedback without hurting the game as players could test the cursor, provide feedback, then go back to legacy. If they find new functions they just enable cursor again to test them. Instead your FORCED this change on the console players and the feedback you will get will be mostly negative as this update actually hinders our ability to play the game. So instead of it being a fun and optional feature that can be improved over time, you basically made the game worse with no way to fix the problems you created for at least a few weeks. As Forrest Gump said: "Stupid is as stupid does." We can only judge DE based on the actions they do and while they have made a fantastic game over years of hard work, this update was not something that should have ever been released. Edited June 5, 2018 by (PS4)Hiero_Glyph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FriendSharkey Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I am just going to say...It doesn't bother me that much beyond the initial first day panic...I mean it's clunky and it takes a bit to get used to, I'm not fan of the color selector now for some reason. I'm used to the concept of drag and drop when it comes to mods, I've been watching Tactical Potato and Mogamu for years now, so it's not like I haven't seen it in action during year 1 through 2. I just know myself, I'll be fine in a week after using it...I could go with any direction the dev or community pushes the game between this new way.... or back to the old...But I figure this all makes sense for consoles ( I hope) with the new UI being worked on, but it is not really that compatible with what we have now. Edited June 5, 2018 by (PS4)FriendSharkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)BrotherNathaniel Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Navigational ND modding have suffered the most from this I'm. We need to be able to switch back to our original UI or have this new cursor removed from the game completely. I am the type of person who rarely complains about changes since they are normally specific to frames or weapons, but this affects the way and efficiency of how we do things in game and right now it takes way to long to do things that used to take 5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)josh11770 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, (PS4)kurasauchiha said: Make the cursor optional. Most players prefer the old system very much this, idk wth they were thinking putting pc style ui on console everything is about 50x slower, what was wrong with the way it was? at least wait for kb &mouse b4 doing something like this. I feel they jumped the gun here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ZenithLord 42 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Hmm... dragging and dropping a mod into place is counter-productive. It looks slick and the design is very well done! Having the virtual cursor is a neat gimmick, but it's the same problem that I had with the Destiny inventory: why add a virtual cursor in a game where you use a gamepad? It's fine on the PC, but frustrating to have to mouse over things when with the old system, tapping the correct sticks in the desired direction would allow you to scroll through item screens like the mod screen very simply. Anything more is cool, but unnecessary. The reason I didn't like the virtual cursor on the Destiny selection screen was due to the imposed speed up/down in the cursor when held and the precision in which you had to have to select specific items. These issues could be solved by having the cursor have one speed (not an option when trying to quickly select gear) and having the cursor only select actual, selectable options. I liked this type of cursor on the Star Chart, but that was because of the location of specific destinations in relation to each other as opposed to the items/nodes being in a set list like on the mod screen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Danielle Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Hey guys, I have here a list of known issues with a couple of notes as well! D-Pad not working on World State Window - will be implemented in a future update! Can't rotate items in the Market (fixed) D-Pad skipping over items in menu lists - will be fixed in a future update! Scrolling with the D-Pad will be implemented in a future update! Thank you for all of your feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RYZEN-ARMADA Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 il y a 53 minutes, (XB1)Tatakai no Kami a dit : I'm sure others have said this already, but I am too lazy to read 4 or more pages of comments, So I'll just add my feedback here. Just got the interface on XB1. Sorry to say, It's a massive downgrade for me as a controller user. Much of the functionality and intuitiveness of the interface has been lost. Need an option to choose between new and old, New is very painful to use on a controller. It's much slower and where the controller still works to move through options it will suddenly stop like in the main menu when you try to tab up to leave a squad. It just stops and you have to switch controls to drag the cursor up. It's jarring. In the mission interface not being able to tab up and down through missions but having to wait on dragging the cursor is a downgrade. But the arsenal is probably the worst affected. Not having the controller button options anymore is not good. and having to drag and drop mods with a controller is painful. If the options were there to click the mod then click the slot it would be easier, but not as smooth and easy as it used to be. All in all the new interface will affect me negatively in my enjoyment of Warframe. It already has. So please hotfix in an option to choose the interface. I get that this should be a massive improvement for the players who use Mouse and KB on console. But it should not be at the cost of functionality for controller users. Thank you. Good saying! Iam crying with you. So I will make a break with Warframe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DimFre4kske Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said: Hey! A quick double tap on the Relic will select it 🙂 It shouldn't take a "double tap". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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