Albion_Vortigern Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, (PS4)Quantaminum said: "Endo rewards will be reduced TO roughly 75% of what they once were" So, 2000 endo becomes 1500 endo. I hope this is what they meant so that I don't have suicidal thoughts when this update drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxiz Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Glad to see you're taking a look at arbitrations. It's however disappointing to see that you're not removing drones. They don't add difficulty or interesting moments during gameplay. They are however annoying and may discourage the player from playing certain frames in the mode. The whole oxygen situation in survival will hopefully be fixed too, but I don't have my hopes up. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsonistic Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 hours ago, [DE]Connor said: With more frequent reward cycles we’ve decided to include a few new goodies, adding variety to all the Endo and sculptures you’ll be earning: PLEASE NO. The loot tables are already plenty diluted by useless drops for us frequent players (Ephemera, Aura Forma, Mods). Please just let us buy Ephemera, Aura Forma BPs and mods with Vitus Essence, so we can get them if we want, not force them down our throats even when we don't want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid10Prime Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 May you please remove the arbtration drones or make them a damage reduction to nearby enemies? They add nothing of value to the gameplay and it's a cheap, unfun mechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelequin Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I like most of this. My only gripe is the new loot table rewards that you only need one of. As pretty much everyone else suggested, please throw them and any other stuff that's useless to have multiple copies of in the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SlumbyBear Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 hours ago, [DE]Connor said: On Heavy Weapon Summon: Gain x armor for y seconds It probably wont stack but i can hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuryux Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 N O I C E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion_Vortigern Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 reminder the moment you get the ephemera its a dead drop from then on (like universal medallions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madway7 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Non Kitgun/Zaw weapon arcane slots when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osairas Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 One request please keep non-endo rewards in C rotations n keep A and B rotations focused on endo, sculpture and even legendary fusion core. This way people who only need endos can play till last B rotation and extract, every hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowFel Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Sounds excellent! This will make arbitrations much more appealing to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, (NSW)Osairas said: One request please keep non-endo rewards in C rotations n keep A and B rotations focused on endo, sculpture and even legendary fusion core. This way people who only need endos can play till last B rotation and extract, every hour no thank you. i want to run a mission as long as i can, with all the C rotations, for endos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LoisGordils Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Midas said: boy... you fool. If I am reading it right it says melee combo on allies and yourself. Ever heard of slash dash augment??? Read again. Negative melee combo on you; positive combo on allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Zweimander Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Reducing the amounf of endo you get and increasong the cost of wares is a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulchman Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 The "proposed fixes" are still missing the main point: we want more rewards for the same time invested. All you're doing is diluting things PLUS turning the numbers down so we earn an equivalent amount based on the same time as current rewards. This is not what we want. We want shorter rounds + higher rewards. Make a freaking game mode that encourages players to play it rather than endure it. MAKE. IT. WORTH. OUR. TIME. FOR ONCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Raccune Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just listened to the Prime Time #261. Please bring Amber Star Bundle to the Rotation A rewards list! That sounds like a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Mulchman said: The "proposed fixes" are still missing the main point: we want more rewards for the same time invested. All you're doing is diluting things PLUS turning the numbers down so we earn an equivalent amount based on the same time as current rewards. This is not what we want. We want shorter rounds + higher rewards. Make a freaking game mode that encourages players to play it rather than endure it. MAKE. IT. WORTH. OUR. TIME. FOR ONCE. and don't dilute loot tables with rewards that everyone needs for a hard limited amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaSymphony27 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mulchman said: The "proposed fixes" are still missing the main point: we want more rewards for the same time invested. All you're doing is diluting things PLUS turning the numbers down so we earn an equivalent amount based on the same time as current rewards. This is not what we want. We want shorter rounds + higher rewards. Make a freaking game mode that encourages players to play it rather than endure it. MAKE. IT. WORTH. OUR. TIME. FOR ONCE. Seconded. There's so many 'whooosh' in the main post that I feel I shouldn't bother to repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulchman Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Fast_Pickle said: reminder the moment you get the ephemera its a dead drop from then on (like universal medallions) Same for the mods. I only play Arbitrations currently for endo and with these proposed changes I'm going to have to play it the same amount of time as current but I'll be getting even less endo due to the pool dilution + turning numbers down. How does this make any sense to anyone developing the mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, (PS4)LoisGordils said: Read again. Negative melee combo on you; positive combo on allies. 5x combo multi for 3 damage immune revenants or inaroses with slash dash support excal, In like 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisIsMyWarframe Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Changes sound pretty good, I'm excited to try them once they go live. One suggestion I have is to move stuff like Aura forma, Ephemera and the Arcanes to the Arbitration Shop. Having those as rotation drops almost defeats the point of the Arbitration Shop, and by extension, Vitus Essence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyatalia Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Pretty good changes overall; more endo, more rewards, more vitus esscences and a less time to get to the real good stuff (rotation C) may make me go back to arbitrations albeit solo, still wishing that you guys find a solution to the host migration problems so you can get rid of revives in this mode tho, being punished for your team being bad is still not a good thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Frost_Nephilim Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 hours ago, HyokaChan said: Now it is mods that you will never bother with using Speak for yourself! My forst and sibear could use some of those!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.V.A.R.A Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 If something is unfair, boring, imbalanced and you do stuff to make it more viable... then at the same time do things to negate the buffs... what is the end goal there? Just wondering. So we'll get twice as fast rewards ... but the rotations, lessened endo, heightened essence cost .... I just don't understand sometimes. So you make changes to "respect our time" then do things to "increase our time playing". I'd love to know who makes these calls sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom_key599 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 A 75% reduction to the endo in arbitrartions might not be a good idea tbh.... SO with that said if we do some math, then we can calculate that 75%=0.75, so if we go with the 1,300 endo from Rotation A currently, and divide that by 0.75 we get a strange number of 1,733.3333333... but for the sake of time we'll just use 1,733 instead. if we then go 1,733 - 1,300 we get what we would be essentially getting in Rotation A after the update of 433 endo per rotation A, leading to 866 endo for both rotation A's... for a quick summery of the other two rotations here's what the endo would probably look like after words. for rotation B, 1,600/0.75= 2,133 -1600 = 533, and for rotation C, 2000/0.75 = 2,666 - 2000 = 666 endo for the remaining endo... this effectively makes getting endo not worth it in arbitrations in my honest opinions, as i like doing the Interceptions for quick and easy endo every rotation, Excavations are also nice but to me interception is more fun to play overall if anyone wishes to expand on this math by all means go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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