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The Upcoming Corrections with Regal Aya: Next Steps


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6 hours ago, (XBOX)Esper sparks96 said:

What if I never got an inbox for a refund though? I bought the 15 bundle and after loading the game up a couple times and farming aya in Deimos, as well as fortuna, I still dont have an inbox msg yet or any platinum changes.

If you never got your platinum in your inbox (should have happened by now), contact customer support.

Visit http://support.warframe.com/ click on Submit a Request, in the subject area choose either "Arsenal/Inventory > missing inventory" or "Billing/PrimeAccess" or "My Account".

Please be patient with the Support Team, they will do their best to help you but it may take time.

I hope you get your plat soon!

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Hello,

I am considering purchasing regal Aya just for prime accessories. But we don't have a specific list of the prime accessories that will be arriving in the coming weeks, only the warframes. (or at least, I didn't find any)
Would it be possible to have a more detailed list of the items available in the coming weeks with their price in regal aya in order to be able to anticipate correctly, and therefore to make the right purchase without having too much or lacking regal aya, since it's non-refundable?

Thank you.

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20 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said:

Our intentions were always good monetization, but we have some learnings we'd like to share regarding intentions and executions when building an adjacent economy:

We did not want the Premium currencies to overlap, but players do because of the value in our prior Prime Vault offerings.

The best way to introduce this would be also offering packs that provide only regal aya, for a lower price, maybe even eventually phasing out the packs with platinum entirely.

The main uproar stemmed soley from the fact that these packs would have gotten less for the same price as a unvaulted Prime accessories. As you point out the Prime Vault and Access packs are only purchasable once, which warrants a discount. However the value of the platinum of the Accessories packs on it's own is around 12-13$ I do not expect Regal aya to cost 2.50$ a piece but expecting them to not be 6.66$/piece is a reasonable standard. I believe a value somewhere between those two values can be found and satisfactory.

(All calculations done with the lowest purchasable quantity of either currency)

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2 hours ago, CyberneticSusurrus said:

Some of you are really missing the point as to why you can't get Prime Accessories for Platinum.

Prime Access requires real money payment of a specific amount.
You are never ever getting Access-exclusive items for Platinum, considering that Platinum varies wildly in its valuation due to discount coupons and trading.
Saying "I just want the cosmetics" is exactly why they're exclusive to Prime Access; to encourage people to actually pay the premium and fund continued development.

In that case, there should be an option of buying Regal Aya packs without the Platinum (previously Endo) at a respective price for people who want to support DE with their real money, but don't need/want the surplus currency in the package.

By your own definition, the value of Platinum can vary wildly... Why force it on people just to bump up the bundle price? 

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6 minutes ago, Tethip said:

But we don't have a specific list of the prime accessories that will be arriving in the coming weeks, only the warframes. (or at least, I didn't find any)

Official Warframe Forums article: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1285421-prime-resurgence-dev-workshop-faq/ (scroll down to "PRIME RESURGENCE FAQ")

Official Warframe Wiki: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Prime_Resurgence#What_are_the_rotation_dates_and_specifics.3F

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9 hours ago, -Vahakn- said:

A step in the right direction. Would have been a perfect outcome if we were also offered the opportunity to buy regal Aya WITH platinum we already have. Veterans like us whom already have all prime frames, weapons etc.don't need more platinum. We want things to spend our platinum on. We already have tens of thousands of platinum collecting dust.

I keep seeing this option and... I get it. Honestly for me that would be freaking amazing.

However that is as good as saying 'I want to be able to buy prime access with plat.' 

And... I don't like that. it does not sit well with me as before this point prime access was always paywalled. I find R-Aya as a good step in evolving that..... Now that they've fixed the value for cost to be on rough parity (yes there are no boosters but I view the loss in boosters as balanced by convenience.)

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19 minutes ago, Tethip said:

Hello,

I am considering purchasing regal Aya just for prime accessories. But we don't have a specific list of the prime accessories that will be arriving in the coming weeks, only the warframes. (or at least, I didn't find any)
Would it be possible to have a more detailed list of the items available in the coming weeks with their price in regal aya in order to be able to anticipate correctly, and therefore to make the right purchase without having too much or lacking regal aya, since it's non-refundable?

Thank you.

Of course! We shared the list in the original Dev Workshop, but here it is for yah - just click on the spoilers to expand full list: 

Spoiler

What are the rotation dates and specifics? 

NOV 16: Mag Prime & Nova Prime

  • Dakra Prime
  • Boar Prime
  • Soma Prime
  • Vasto Prime
  • Targis Prime Armor
  • Distilling Extractor Prime & Blueprint
  • Edo Prime Armor
  • Velorum Prime Sigil

NOV 23: Limbo Prime & Trinity Prime

  • Pyrana Prime
  • Destreza Prime
  • Dual Kamas Prime
  • Oblivia Prime Syandana
  • Rift Walker Prime Sigil
  • Kavasa Prime Kubrow Set
  • Naviga Prime Sugatra

NOV 30: Mesa Prime & Hydroid Prime

  • Nami Skyla Prime
  • Ballistica Prime
  • Akjagara Prime
  • Redeemer Prime
  • Spritsail Prime Armor 
  • Sardin Prime Sugatra
  • Mesa Prime Montesa Helmet
  • Operator Prime Accessories
  • Cholla Prime Sugatra

DEC 7: Volt Prime & Loki Prime

  • Odonata Prime
  • Bo Prime
  • Wyrm Prime
  • Edo Prime Armor
  • Kazeru Prime Sugatra
  • Summus Prime Sentinel Accessories
  • Daman Prime Sugatra

DEC 14: Vauban Prime & Ash Prime

  • Vectis Prime
  • Carrier Prime
  • Akstiletto Prime
  • Fragor Prime
  • Yamako Prime Syandana
  • Unda Prime Sentinel Accessories
  • Citadella Prime Syandana
  • Cateno Prime Sugatra

DEC 21: Oberon Prime & Nekros Prime

  • Tigris Prime
  • Galatine Prime
  • Sybaris Prime
  • Silva & Aegis Prime
  • Uru Prime Syandana
  • Acanthus Prime Armor 
  • Sukira Prime Syandana
  • Aroka Prime Sugatra

DEC 28: Saryn Prime & Valkyr Prime

  • Spira Prime
  • Nikana Prime
  • Cernos Prime
  • Venka Prime
  • Cycuta Prime Syandana
  • Cycuta Prime Sigil
  • Liset Prime Skin
  • Saita Prime Suit

JAN 4: Ember Prime & Frost Prime

  • Sicarus Prime
  • Glaive Prime
  • Latron Prime
  • Reaper Prime
  • Pyra Prime Syandana
  • Titan Extractor Prime & Blueprint
  • Misa Prime Syandana

JAN 11, 2022: 2-Part Finale begins! 

  • Everything above + Nyx Prime & Rhino Prime
    • Scindo Prime
    • Hikou Prime
    • Ankyros Prime
    • Boltor Prime
    • Targis Prime Armor Set
    • Vala Prime Sugatra 
    • Noru Prime Syandana 
    • Distilling Extractor Prime & Blueprint

JAN 25, 2022: Prime Resurgence Ends! 

 

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21 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said:

Tenno,

Building a new economy is tough. Despite Prime Resurgence being a best-selling Vault debut, we are making changes to what was introduced yesterday in the Regal Aya Packs by adding Platinum. The changes we are making are a result of what you want to see from us as a Developer and what we want for ourselves: good monetization.

Our intentions were always good monetization, but we have some learnings we'd like to share regarding intentions and executions when building an adjacent economy:

We misunderstood what some players valued most in the prior Vault packs: Platinum. We stand by our initial reasoning that Regal Aya was a good value for players interested in flexibility, but we now better understand what other factors our players consider when making purchasing decisions. This value of player purchase flexibility was justified by the sales (as this is our best debut to date), but that honestly doesn't matter if there's still misalignment between us and players who want to support us.

"We want Platinum", said many.
"But these aren't Platinum packs", we'd think.

We don't want this event, which is aimed towards improving the Unvaulting system, to be held back by our misstep on pack value and our rigid (but well-intentioned) thinking in separating the Regal Aya and Platinum currencies. So, we have a change coming:

Platinum will be included in Regal Aya Packs. It will be retroactively given to those who have already purchased and added in as soon as possible for future purchases. A timeline for this will be provided shortly.

We are in the testing phase of this now thanks to our team.

The amounts will be:

  • 3 Regal Aya: 200 Platinum
  • 7 Regal Aya: 400 Platinum
  • 15 Regal Aya: 1200 Platinum

These values were chosen to closely match the Prime Vault, while also accounting for the fact that these are re-purchasable whereas Prime Vaults are not.

The technical limitations related to how our offers are shown in different marketplaces are still in play for how a player will know they receive this Plat, but we will solve this over the coming months. So in many ways, it's an 'invisible' addition until all store-fronts can be synchronized (invisible in store, present in accounts that purchase). Until then, there will be inconsistent presentation across platforms, but the Platinum will be there. We thought it wasn't possible at the time of our last posting, but our team has worked wonders and was able to find a way.

We did not want the Premium currencies to overlap, but players do because of the value in our prior Prime Vault offerings. We are opting to adjust our stance for the benefit of the community at large who weighed in with perspectives and feedback that considered all factors. Those who chose to be toxic will be able to participate in this change thanks solely to the constructive feedback that occurred - toxicity is never tolerated or rewarded.'

Moving forward you will get more value on top of the much-desired flexibility. We apologize for any stress (thanks for those who kept the peace). See you around Varzia, Tenno!


2:30 PM ET Edit: All Platforms' Regal Aya Packs have been updated to include the above Platinum amounts! We are still working on the script component for all those who purchased before they were updated. 

5:00 PM ET Edit: We have started the script for all Platforms! 

To reiterate from the OP,  we are retroactively delivering Platinum to those who had purchased Regal Aya packs prior to the addition we made today! The amounts given are as follows: 

  • 3 Regal Aya: 200 Platinum
  • 7 Regal Aya: 400 Platinum
  • 15 Regal Aya: 1200 Platinum

If you purchased multiple packs you will be receiving the total amount of Platinum per pack as you see above. You will be notified via in-game inbox that you have received your Platinum, and the amount that has been deposited into your account (as seen in the example image below!). 

Regal Aya Platinum Script Inbox Message.png

We will let you know once all of the Platforms have completed their script run - it may take some time so we appreciate your patience. 

Thanks Tenno! 

5:06 PM ET Edit: And just like that the script has completed across all Platforms!

I wish that for the armour sets it didn’t take regal aya just normal aya because I already have all the prime frames 😔

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2 minutes ago, [DE]Danielle said:

Of course! We shared the list in the original Dev Workshop, but here it is for yah - just click on the spoilers to expand full list: 

Spoiler
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What are the rotation dates and specifics? 

NOV 16: Mag Prime & Nova Prime

  • Dakra Prime
  • Boar Prime
  • Soma Prime
  • Vasto Prime
  • Targis Prime Armor
  • Distilling Extractor Prime & Blueprint
  • Edo Prime Armor
  • Velorum Prime Sigil

NOV 23: Limbo Prime & Trinity Prime

  • Pyrana Prime
  • Destreza Prime
  • Dual Kamas Prime
  • Oblivia Prime Syandana
  • Rift Walker Prime Sigil
  • Kavasa Prime Kubrow Set
  • Naviga Prime Sugatra

NOV 30: Mesa Prime & Hydroid Prime

  • Nami Skyla Prime
  • Ballistica Prime
  • Akjagara Prime
  • Redeemer Prime
  • Spritsail Prime Armor 
  • Sardin Prime Sugatra
  • Mesa Prime Montesa Helmet
  • Operator Prime Accessories
  • Cholla Prime Sugatra

DEC 7: Volt Prime & Loki Prime

  • Odonata Prime
  • Bo Prime
  • Wyrm Prime
  • Edo Prime Armor
  • Kazeru Prime Sugatra
  • Summus Prime Sentinel Accessories
  • Daman Prime Sugatra

DEC 14: Vauban Prime & Ash Prime

  • Vectis Prime
  • Carrier Prime
  • Akstiletto Prime
  • Fragor Prime
  • Yamako Prime Syandana
  • Unda Prime Sentinel Accessories
  • Citadella Prime Syandana
  • Cateno Prime Sugatra

DEC 21: Oberon Prime & Nekros Prime

  • Tigris Prime
  • Galatine Prime
  • Sybaris Prime
  • Silva & Aegis Prime
  • Uru Prime Syandana
  • Acanthus Prime Armor 
  • Sukira Prime Syandana
  • Aroka Prime Sugatra

DEC 28: Saryn Prime & Valkyr Prime

  • Spira Prime
  • Nikana Prime
  • Cernos Prime
  • Venka Prime
  • Cycuta Prime Syandana
  • Cycuta Prime Sigil
  • Liset Prime Skin
  • Saita Prime Suit

JAN 4: Ember Prime & Frost Prime

  • Sicarus Prime
  • Glaive Prime
  • Latron Prime
  • Reaper Prime
  • Pyra Prime Syandana
  • Titan Extractor Prime & Blueprint
  • Misa Prime Syandana

JAN 11, 2022: 2-Part Finale begins! 

  • Everything above + Nyx Prime & Rhino Prime
    • Scindo Prime
    • Hikou Prime
    • Ankyros Prime
    • Boltor Prime
    • Targis Prime Armor Set
    • Vala Prime Sugatra 
    • Noru Prime Syandana 
    • Distilling Extractor Prime & Blueprint

JAN 25, 2022: Prime Resurgence Ends! 

 

Plat isn't showing when clicking on Regal Aya packs (on Xbox at least) - has it been added but not showing, or is the change still pending?

Please ignore the DM asking the same thing if you see this, it probably got buried in the many messages you get every day 😁

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18 minutes ago, (PSN)TTV_G123RYAN said:

I wish that for the armour sets it didn’t take regal aya just normal aya because I already have all the prime frames 😔

I have every prime frame and prime weapon. We veterans have very few things to purchase with Regal Aya.   

I'll probably drop 20 dollars for three coins {regal). I want to send a positive message that if New War becomes a 'home run' I'll be spending some coins baking further this game.

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26 minutes ago, (XBOX)DS Monkfish said:

Plat isn't showing when clicking on Regal Aya packs (on Xbox at least) - has it been added but not showing, or is the change still pending?

Please ignore the DM asking the same thing if you see this, it probably got buried in the many messages you get every day 😁

Quoting the original post on that :) 

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The technical limitations related to how our offers are shown in different marketplaces are still in play for how a player will know they receive this Plat, but we will solve this over the coming months. So in many ways, it's an 'invisible' addition until all store-fronts can be synchronized (invisible in store, present in accounts that purchase). Until then, there will be inconsistent presentation across platforms, but the Platinum will be there. We thought it wasn't possible at the time of our last posting, but our team has worked wonders and was able to find a way.

 

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Glad that we get plat out of this but i think it would be better if you brought down the prices for the regal aya packs just a little because I have been wanted to get the prime cosmetics because I love how they look but I can’t be just to get like one prime items I have already spent almost 20 bucks and that’s not even a weapon or a frame it’s just for an appearance so pls just bring down the price for regal aya

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15 minutes ago, [DE]Danielle said:

 

Please explain why Avia Prime armor and Syandana only purchaseable with Regal Aya when it's free from Twitch Prime, when Apis syandana is purchaseable for normal Aya?

Both comes from Twitch Prime, it doesn't make sense if one of them was only purchaseable with paid currency just because it has 'Prime' on it's name. Avia Prime Armor is a 'prime' armor only in name, since it never came in Prime Access packs!

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6 minutes ago, (NSW)RATHURUE said:

Please explain why Avia Prime armor and Syandana only purchaseable with Regal Aya when it's free from Twitch Prime, when Apis syandana is purchaseable for normal Aya?

Both comes from Twitch Prime, it doesn't make sense if one of them was only purchaseable with paid currency just because it has 'Prime' on it's name. Avia Prime Armor is a 'prime' armor only in name, since it never came in Prime Access packs!

Honestly, I'm surprised they're purchasable or attainable at all.  I don't see any others like this on their upcoming list. 

Are there any other Twitch Prime cosmetics that are or became available any other way?  

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make prime accessoires cost 1 regal aya instead of 2. 

normal prices for warframe have always been on the.. lets say higher side.. so you generally wait until you get 75% off or at least 50% off to buy plat. (which should be removed entirely and set the bases prices to about 40% to be fair and even at all times.. but thats another topic..)

as for the prime accesses I only got one ever, and that was because of the accessoires.. I want to PLAY the game.. so I want to farm the frames and weapons.. but the accesoires always looked cool, so having the opportunity to grab them now WAS exciting to me... but charging me 18€ to  buy 1 1/2 of them? nonono. I can get way better stuff at the workshop for that amount of money.. and you know it.

so just make the accessoires sets cost just 1 regal aya. that way I can grab 3 sets for my 18€.. which is still more than 3 workshop items, but at least that would make it worth it..

its the only thing buy worthy for a veteran after all. and not all veterans are whales and can just throw money at you as sad as it may be,

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