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On 2019-07-07 at 3:50 PM, Torbamf said:

I assume that Empyrean isn't coming until next year, but if not, does anyone know when it's release date is? I say this mainly because I fear there might be another content drought like the one before the jovian Concord and even before that. Thank you for your time!

Rumor has it something big is supposed to drop in October but that's pure speculation. I'd expect something decent in Q3 and something major in Q4. They said Christmas for the New War, but nothing on Duviri Paradox or Empyrean. If either comes out in October don't expect it to be complete.

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7 hours ago, DrakeWurrum said:

That sounds extremely optimistic. That was just fresh off the build the night before Tennocon, and they were EXTREMELY nervous. If Steve is that nervous, they don't feel ready to launch.

Plus, pretty sure the end of July is a regular Canadian holiday week or two.

They showed us what they showed us. That doesn't mean the whole thing is ready to ship. Yes, it looks good, but don't run away with the hype train.

I could see it being a late August to mid-September release, personally.

Optmsitc is what got me in life, without that, all we have is depression and anger, trust me I was very not optimistic and I got punished for it (you can guess how..)

DE and the way they handle things, even more so like other game composition are forcing their players to always be optimistic, say the wrong thing and your gone.

But with that out the way, lets get to the rest of the comment. Holidays, yeah sure, that's nice to hear, but onto the important bits

They did show the latest build from the Devbuild, this was confirmed when Rebecca said that it also effected the landing craft (or how ever you spell it) has a massive change and is coming WITH Railjack (given you can see it outside) and it was a new Build, the Demo unlike last year wasn't just a "fake trailer" where it shows non-in-game or very "scripted" gameplay. This Demo didn't have that (Besides one unfinished room, that was the Orokin thing, all it needed was prorply resources added to it, but even then Railjack might not have that type of thing)

Aug to Mid-step is a very stupidity amount of time to wait without content, I see your point in not running with the hype train (trust me, "Hype" died for me years ago, I can't even stand the word hype anymore) so don't worry, I won't be let down, just dispointed and it will prove I was right.

7 hours ago, Loza03 said:

Not necessarily ready to ship, but a fair bit closer to that point that Fortuna was at 2018's - where, if the fact the bounty-in-field system there vs final is anything to go by, the actual bounty system wasn't actually hooked up yet.

Perhaps, but I don't think the Kingpin and Sqaurd Linking is shipping with it, think of Fortuna when we didn't have any way of farming the Orb mother, cuz it was not out yet. they added it in parts, no reason why rail jack can do the same. Think about it, do you really think we're gonna get the WHOLE star chart in one big sweep?, I don't think so.

6 hours ago, Torbamf said:

My god, this got a lot of responses, lol. It's a shame that all we really have is assumptions or potential half-truths right now, I really hope DE gives us an update on the release time frame, because not releasing railjack in between New War would mean a whole 5 months of nothing.

Exclay and alot of people point out, just play another game, that is true and we all should do it, but when we're all busy playing other games, who is playing Warframe?, you can hype content, but that don't mean you'll keep your players (besides the hard-core fans)

4 hours ago, Marvelous_A said:

Most likely early next year. Actually they said both Empyrean and TNW will come out before Tennocon, now that TNW is pushed back to X'mas 2019, Empyrean will possibly come out before 2020 Tennocon

Nope, that will be a massive content drought without anything at all, Skins and single frames/weapons are not really content. Same goes for the Orb Mother everyone thinks is coming out soon.

Meta builds will trash the boss fight within days, Vets who have stocked up Rep for Little Duck (assuming Gauss drops from her) will get him in no time and meny have stocked up plat just to buy him outright. (hard-core farmers will likely milk the hell out of what ever he drops from), that's a week worth at most.

Leveling and Froma (ing) will take days, so that's 1-2 weeks wroth of "content"

28 minutes ago, (PS4)OmegaSlayer said:

If you guys read here, you can get some hints

https://www.warframe.com/news/warframe-empyrean-full-reveal

like

" Kingpin System: Enemies have started to adapt to Tenno lethality, and from it, kingpins will emerge. More information coming soon."

Note "More information coming soon"

or

" Signal the Squad Link: Transcend beyond your solo objective and tap into a larger mission by reaching out to other squads of Tenno using the Squad Link. In multi-objective missions from space, players can call up active players on Orb Vallis or Plains of Eidolon (or vice versa) to help the bigger cause -- lower enemy ship shields, steal valuable data, and more, as the New War looms."

Note "as the New War looms" meaning that Empyrean will be around way before Christmas

and

"Using a completely re-written rendering technology (“Deferred Renderer”) in its proprietary Evolution Engine, Warframe’s graphics have never looked better."

So yeah, I think it will be rolled out in phases

This ^

It will be def way before Xmas and given that the new Rending will be likely shipped very soon (as they always are, cuz they are key for Mainlines) Railjack won't be far behind, if not right on top of it.

Railjack for sure will be in phases, DE said numbous times they want this ASAP OUT and they said the same with Fortuna (it came out in phases)

.Railjack

Kingpin

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35 minutes ago, BETAOPTICS said:

Not next week, probably not this month, but sooner.

It will be very lucky of us if we get it this month, like I said in my posts 22nd week of July might be a bit of a stretch, but you never kown, depends in lady luck is feeling nice, but more then likely it will be sometime in August nothing more.

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55 minutes ago, Circle_of_Psi said:

It will be very lucky of us if we get it this month, like I said in my posts 22nd week of July might be a bit of a stretch, but you never kown, depends in lady luck is feeling nice, but more then likely it will be sometime in August nothing more.

Yeah I am estimating August and forward as well. Not expecting this month, but I would be positively surprised.

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1 hour ago, Circle_of_Psi said:

Aug to Mid-step is a very stupidity amount of time to wait without content

TBH, I genuinely think people are acting way too stupid about this "no content" thing.

I get it; I'm also tired of not having reasons to log in. But keep in mind we have the current Nightwave series ending in September. We still have the 3rd Orb Mother fight to wait for. And Melee 3.0 is riiiight around the corner (Rebecca claimed in an interview they're getting back to work on that once Tennocon is over).

So while we're "waiting for content" they're still very busy working on things.

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Well the Empyrean or whatever its called will come out with the improved engine. I'm gonna go and guess between early December to early March

to be honest i don't really care for that ship, I hope i can use my Liset and go from nice gameplay between Archwing, Frame/Tenno, if we have to use a lame whale ship to do stuff Man that's gonna suck. There goes my dream of going between missions and different gameplay without going (loading in and out) out and in of a mission. I would love to simply do a survival that moves from archwing into the ship, while my friend sneaks around steal stuff and has the chance to choose a roll or something, between 3 pools of drops, like Mods and so on.

 

Still I'm more interested in Engine improvement and the gameplay streamline.

Would be nice if DE would gave a clap about Founder's stuff. Why they have not remastered and made the old Founder's stuff to look up-to date. 

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14 minutes ago, Towik said:

Well the Empyrean or whatever its called will come out with the improved engine. I'm gonna go and guess between early December to early March

to be honest i don't really care for that ship, I hope i can use my Liset and go from nice gameplay between Archwing, Frame/Tenno, if we have to use a lame whale ship to do stuff Man that's gonna suck. There goes my dream of going between missions and different gameplay without going (loading in and out) out and in of a mission. I would love to simply do a survival that moves from archwing into the ship, while my friend sneaks around steal stuff and has the chance to choose a roll or something, between 3 pools of drops, like Mods and so on.

 

Still I'm more interested in Engine improvement and the gameplay streamline.

Would be nice if DE would gave a clap about Founder's stuff. Why they have not remastered and made the old Founder's stuff to look up-to date. 

I do hope we can eventually get alternative ship designs, once the main Empyrean updates are all stable.

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5 hours ago, BETAOPTICS said:

Yeah I am estimating August and forward as well. Not expecting this month, but I would be positively surprised.

Mostly the same, but no need for it to go over August 

5 hours ago, DrakeWurrum said:

TBH, I genuinely think people are acting way too stupid about this "no content" thing.

I get it; I'm also tired of not having reasons to log in. But keep in mind we have the current Nightwave series ending in September. We still have the 3rd Orb Mother fight to wait for. And Melee 3.0 is riiiight around the corner (Rebecca claimed in an interview they're getting back to work on that once Tennocon is over).

So while we're "waiting for content" they're still very busy working on things.

First of all, not really?

As for Nightwave, its not much and 10 weeks is just a "guess" due to it can drag on much longer, if you seen the countless posts about Nightwave you'll understand why its not content, it's a excuse to log in and do tasks we already done before, to get shineys. (Mods and Cosmetics only)

3rd Orb Mother fight will be treated the same as the others are, Meta Farm it, get reward, never touch again. (repeat). Meele 3.0 is not for a while yet as they hit a roadblock with Railjack and New War and all Melee 3.0 is a change of a system, not a whole new content of things to do. We'll play with them, test them, provide feedback and go back to daily logins and be done.

So while they are "working on things" we'll still be waiting. I admit, I am a bit tried of the same post or form topic, but it's just the fact of truth, no content, no play, but we'll just have to see.

I have all respect for anyone working hard for content for us, but I still don't want to see a repeat of War Within and last year.

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On 2019-07-10 at 3:24 PM, Vlada91 said:

If they create this from the last tennocon and now we seen its like is finished project... I don't see the reason why we need to wait much longer. It would bee realistic if we got this update by the end of this month...

You can't say that because we don't truly know the state of the game mode, for example the Railjack never destroyed the two generator positions that were protecting the Kuva Lich. Also, if the release date was close then I'm sure they would have mentioned it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it went down like this:

Railjack release Chrismas 2019

The New War released a month before TennoCon 2020

The Diviri Paradox will have a gameplay reveal at TennoCon 2020 and a release for October 2020. 

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There's even a tileset remaster going on that is in the works but hasn't been publically announced yet, as per Sheldon's interview 

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-07-09-warframe-developer-on-avoiding-crunch-its-not-a-sprint-its-a-marathon

My bet is on Corpus Ice Planet, as all the Corpus materials have been reworked, even if I'd really hope for Mars

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3 hours ago, (XB1)Salty Ginger said:

 

3 hours ago, White_Matter said:

 

2 hours ago, TheMuslimGamerGB said:

 

No, you are all wrong. see the other posts please. (Set/Nov is far too long)

 

 

17 minutes ago, (PS4)OmegaSlayer said:

There's even a tileset remaster going on that is in the works but hasn't been publically announced yet, as per Sheldon's interview 

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-07-09-warframe-developer-on-avoiding-crunch-its-not-a-sprint-its-a-marathon

My bet is on Corpus Ice Planet, as all the Corpus materials have been reworked, even if I'd really hope for Mars

Won't be out for a very long time, they are focusing in Railjack/New War

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I noticed something when rewatching the Empyrean footage from Tennocon 2019, specifically the Kuva Lich segment when it was dying, it gave a stat list before the final blow was dealt and most of the information was rather innocuous, but one thing stuck out to me.

The survival time of the Lich was listed as 72 days, now obviously this could just be how it was constructed for the point of illustration for the system, but it also holds another potential possibility.

It could be inferred that the build they were running that demo on has been up and running for at least 72 days, or a little more than 2 months, which could be a good sign that massive overhauls aren't happening at this point and they could be on the fine-tuning point of development.

Obviously you can take this with a Corpus salt mine worth of salt, but it is a unique detail that might be worth looking into.

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1 minute ago, Aldain said:

I noticed something when rewatching the Empyrean footage from Tennocon 2019, specifically the Kuva Lich segment when it was dying, it gave a stat list before the final blow was dealt and most of the information was rather innocuous, but one thing stuck out to me.

The survival time of the Lich was listed as 72 days, now obviously this could just be how it was constructed for the point of illustration for the system, but it also holds another potential possibility.

It could be inferred that the build they were running that demo on has been up and running for at least 72 days, or a little more than 2 months, which could be a good sign that massive overhauls aren't happening at this point and they could be on the fine-tuning point of development.

Obviously you can take this with a Corpus salt mine worth of salt, but it is a unique detail that might be worth looking into.

This ^

Now, if it does get "Delayed" until Nov/Otc/Set as people say it is, then well, RIP me, but there is no reason at all why it shuold.

The gameplay was a update from the Devbuild, all it needs is some fine-tuning

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9 minutes ago, Circle_of_Psi said:

This ^

Now, if it does get "Delayed" until Nov/Otc/Set as people say it is, then well, RIP me, but there is no reason at all why it shuold.

The gameplay was a update from the Devbuild, all it needs is some fine-tuning

The gameplay for it just needs finetuning, work out bugs that I'm sure are in there and get it out to the public asap.  I agree, even if a tileset remaster is coming (hope to god it's corpus ice planet since it's easily the worst tileset other then eris) it won't be for a LONG time post new war, which we know is holiday 2019.  

Here's hoping railjack is on pc by end of august though, as that seems likely unless they encounter some big problems.  Only people who know best are DE employees as all we can say from the outside looking in I hope it comes soonTM.  

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11 minutes ago, (XB1)COA Altair said:

The gameplay for it just needs finetuning, work out bugs that I'm sure are in there and get it out to the public asap.  I agree, even if a tileset remaster is coming (hope to god it's corpus ice planet since it's easily the worst tileset other then eris) it won't be for a LONG time post new war, which we know is holiday 2019.  

Here's hoping railjack is on pc by end of august though, as that seems likely unless they encounter some big problems.  Only people who know best are DE employees as all we can say from the outside looking in I hope it comes soonTM.  

No, stop, my ego can only get so big!

Joking aside: I do hope this is the case, cuz all it needs is a good fine-tuning and bug  fixing (like the one I saw where the Grinner ship cliped into the bigger one, but the only one I saw) but yes the Remaster won't be for a while, as they want Railjack out ASAP (as said in the reviews) and either Early or Mid Augs will be great (late if all else fails)

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i don't get why folks don't like the railjack's looks and speed, a lot of people are complaining that it looks too slow.

I am an avid Star Trek, Herbert, Niven/Pornelle and Asimov fan and possibly because of this I like the idea of slow naval-like engagements. I also think the ship looks pretty cool, too. I like it when ships don't look like ships from other franchises. 

That said, I wouldn't mind multiple ships (or a Sigma Prime or something like that) or even fighters (even though I'm pretty sure this is fulfilled by archwing)

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29 minutes ago, (NSW)Badger said:

i don't get why folks don't like the railjack's looks and speed, a lot of people are complaining that it looks too slow.

I am an avid Star Trek, Herbert, Niven/Pornelle and Asimov fan and possibly because of this I like the idea of slow naval-like engagements. I also think the ship looks pretty cool, too. I like it when ships don't look like ships from other franchises. 

That said, I wouldn't mind multiple ships (or a Sigma Prime or something like that) or even fighters (even though I'm pretty sure this is fulfilled by archwing)

Probably because of this:

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Not that its necessarily a write-out of DE's schedule, but they changed their Twitter icon to the Empyrean-Lotus logo. 

So at least the social media management team is at a minimum prepping for it to release. 

Obviously, this could jumping the gun, or it just being a new logo for them to use to maintain interest after Tennocon.  Which could obviously be a mistake that'll lead to another hype train decay incident. 

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