(PSN)Swarmtorn Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 It was a shower thought. With the optimum build, can any weapon be useful for "endgame"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Not to quite the same extent. You can pretty much use every Warframe for whatever you want, but there are so many weapons, and a lot of them just don't have the numbers to keep up, especially with other, similar weapons that outclass them by doing the same job but better. Technically you still can use any weapon you want, but it can be a pain, since the difference between high tier and the lowest tier is much greater than with Warframes. Edited September 18, 2019 by AdunSaveMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I've seen people bring MK1 weapons to Sorties without being completely useless. So yeah, I'd say that every weapon can be at least serviceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)yepbeeble Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Well yes, but no. All weapons can be modded correctly, and with a riven, they could be brought to sorties. But some weapons, just aren't as good as others. As the meta changes, other weapons come in and out of usability. It's the same thing that happened with the Sonicor. Buffed, nerfed, buffed, nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, (PS4)Swarmtorn said: With the optimum build, can any weapon be useful for "endgame"? ... It depends... Are you referring to YOUR "Optimum build"? Or to another player's "Optimum build"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnossosTNC Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 There are four types of weapons in the game: at least semi-useful weapons, fun weapons, at least semi-useful weapons that are fun, and the Stug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Swarmtorn Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 hace 5 minutos, Uhkretor dijo: ... It depends... Are you referring to YOUR "Optimum build"? Or to another player's "Optimum build"? I'm talking about a general optimum build, that could work for most of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Quantaminum Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 That depends on what endgame is for you. I don't think many weapons would be good enough for arbitrations, but pretty much everything goes for sortie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Not really, and certainly not to the same degree. Weapons are tools, You bring the correct tool for the job. Some tools come from Harbor Freight and might not be completely up to the task--something to keep in mind. Like warframes, much of a weapon's strength comes from the modding, but the base stats do matter. If you're not planning on facing enemies past, say, lvl30, then about anything will do. If you're planning on facing enemies in the lvl80+ range, then you need to get a bit more serious and leave the low end or silly stuff at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FriendSharkey Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Somewhere in "Universe A" there's a perfect version of you playing the perfect version of Warframe..and all the weapons have powers unto themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDice Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The Stug and Seer exist, so no. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Yes and no. Yes because the game consists of more than endless, Arbitrations, Eidolons, etc. Every weapon can be starchart and Sortie viable, 90% of weapons are viable beyond that, and things like endurance runs or Eidolons usually require more refined builds that not every weapon can fulfill. Plus Rivens do help bridge the gap for a lot of weapons in all cases. And no because weapons are not made to be balanced for all level ranges unlike Warframes. Weapons have the most mastery rank restrictions for a reason and you're expected to get new, better, weapons as you progress through the game and not stick with your Mk-1 Paris for the entire game. That being said the game's balance is nonexistence enough that this really doesn't apply to all cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureTerra Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Mastery Fodder = Not good and what actually is Fodder will vary from player to player so not all weapons are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrum Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 there are many weapons that are outright useless. the stug comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Hyperion Rexx Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 For star chart, with several forma and maxed primed mods and then matched with the right frame, yeah, every weapon is viable. Not necessarily good, but viable. A fair number are trash for sorties though. Beyond sortie lvl the list gets ever shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ozymandias-13- Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I would say with a Riven, for sure. Without it, not necessarily. If you're only referring to optimal modding, without a Riven, then no. Some weapons do in fact suck. Now, with the Warframe in the picture, as in counting an optimal loadout then most likely. An Ember using an MK-1 weapon modded for fire damage, and using her buff augments can wreak havoc on enemies while only dealing damage with the weapons (not using her damage abilities). Same goes for most Frames that are capable of buffing weapon stats, without depending on the actual ability damage of those frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkampf Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 vor 1 Stunde schrieb (PS4)Swarmtorn: With the optimum build, can any weapon be useful for "endgame"? Actually, yes, but only to a certain degree. There are a few exceptions, like the Mk1 versions (which are supposed to not be viable) and some very few oddballs inbetween. But for the most weapons, yes, they can be made viable. You won't be as strong as you could be, but you can be strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 You should be thinking something else in the shower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Quarky Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Kaotyke said: You should be thinking something else in the shower... "Did I remember to clean behind my ears?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CommanderC2121 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, KnossosTNC said: There are four types of weapons in the game: at least semi-useful weapons, fun weapons, at least semi-useful weapons that are fun, and the Stug. Where does Seer fit into that xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnossosTNC Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, (PS4)CommanderC2121 said: Where does Seer fit into that xD Semi-useful. Barely. For a gun you can get so early in the game, it hits like a truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, (PS4)Swarmtorn said: I'm talking about a general optimum build, that could work for most of the players. so~... another player's "Optimum build"... ... You do realize that the "preferential" part also includes the modding part, right? 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War.Machine.9 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Single viper is ultimate meta weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)zThulsaDoomz Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Almost everything is good for everything. That's the appeal of Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodwill Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 That depends on how you define useful and how useful it needs to be to consider itself useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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