Fire2box Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If veterans are busy doing Lich stuff then they can't possibly carry new players as the mission is separate from the normal node one. New players then won't get bored of having " nothing to kill". Sneaky DE. (I don't think that was DE's real intention. And there's still alerts, normal relic nodes, etc where Veterans and new players mingle.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_fish. Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Except as a veteran player I'm not playing this new lich system, it's too much grind and rng for no reward, the mechanics are awful and the overall experience is closing on comatose. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, a_fish. said: Except as a veteran player I'm not playing this new lich system, it's too much grind and rng for no reward, the mechanics are awful and the overall experience is closing on comatose. quoted for truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanckZero Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 They've definitely succeeded in keeping me from joining any mission with level 20+ grineer for the foreseeable future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, a_fish. said: Except as a veteran player I'm not playing this new lich system, it's too much grind and rng for no reward, the mechanics are awful and the overall experience is closing on comatose. 1 hour ago, Rawbeard said: quoted for truth. That. There is so much wrong with liches that I'm making a conscious effort to not get one. I'm avoiding normal grineer missions wherever possible (RIP, fast levelling on Saturn/Helene), and if I do find myself in one with a larvaling spawn, it's immediate abort mission time. Which is a shame, since I really do want a chakkhurr and that archgun. Edited November 4, 2019 by DoomFruit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I am gonna consciously avoid lich larvas until the weekend where I can spend more hours getting the requiems unlocked. I do not want to get stuff stolen or be faced with an ironskin or corrupted ground capable lich in the middle of a mission. I do not dislike it, but I will be choosing when to create a lich and its not on regular weekdays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SastusBulbas Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I just play. Not seen any Liches or whatever they are. Know very little, have little interest. Currently no idea what im doing since so many changes to mods n such. Lots of useless stuff now. Im still trying to work out any point in Inaros's 1 ability as I aint getting finishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobrakai Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, PlanckZero said: They've definitely succeeded in keeping me from joining any mission with level 20+ grineer for the foreseeable future. Why? It doesn't affect anything in your normal gameplay. When you choose a mission on the star chart you have to choose whether to do it with the litch stuff, if you don't choose it then you never see it and everything is as it was before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZzVinniezZ Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kobrakai said: Why? It doesn't affect anything in your normal gameplay. When you choose a mission on the star chart you have to choose whether to do it with the litch stuff, if you don't choose it then you never see it and everything is as it was before. because Lavling will always spawn any grineer level 20+...there is no avoiding that if you are using AOE stuffs and accidentally kill them. once the Lich is created it will never stop invading the solar system...my is 6 planets now and he stole most of my Requiem relics and Sorties reward. (1 riven) so if you are saying it doesn't effect normal gameplay it does...the Lich will steal from you despite you are not doing Lich mission. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critaa Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 vor 2 Stunden schrieb DoomFruit: That. There is so much wrong with liches that I'm making a conscious effort to not get one. I'm avoiding normal grineer missions wherever possible (RIP, fast levelling on Saturn/Helene), and if I do find myself in one with a larvaling spawn, it's immediate abort mission time. Which is a shame, since I really do want a chakkhurr and that archgun. For leveling you can go onslaught...with or without booster you usually need 1-3 runs from 0 to 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennieplop60 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) bruh Edited November 4, 2019 by lennieplop60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinaMonsoon Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 this innocent thread turning into a salt mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_PPS Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Fire2box said: If veterans are busy doing Lich stuff then they can't possibly carry new players as the mission is separate from the normal node one. New players then won't get bored of having " nothing to kill". Sneaky DE. (I don't think that was DE's real intention. And there's still alerts, normal relic nodes, etc where Veterans and new players mingle.) You are mostly right. It’s the largest exodus of veteran and hardcore players ever after the worst Update dropped. Please read other relative posts in Feedback sections. Many posts have been deleted by Mods to put out the massive fires of anger and disappointment by many players. We are also seeing the steepest decline of player numbers after any mainline Updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_PPS Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, a_fish. said: Except as a veteran player I'm not playing this new lich system, it's too much grind and rng for no reward, the mechanics are awful and the overall experience is closing on comatose. Not just the grind. It’s hard grinding with hugely nerfed fluidity of gameplay and very obnoxious and brokenly nerfed new melee system transplanted from another game that is not Warframe. This is not challenging with fun. This is unbearable grinding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uxx0 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The only thing DE is keeping me out of is their game. I might go back when the Lich grind is nerfed and the mess that is melee gets fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranks21 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I don't even wanna know how to start the lich stuff cause nothing it has is appealing+ nothing DE add to this game is fun or worth investing in when you know for a fact they are gonna nerf it to meh in the next few patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Critaa said: For leveling you can go onslaught...with or without booster you usually need 1-3 runs from 0 to 30 I've heard that as well, but sanctuary onslaught is another of those things which I flat out refuse to touch due to it being blatantly, utterly broken on release (namely that it wasn't possible to do it solo because the life support timer ran out faster than you could refill it, the sole exception apparently being if you had a perfect minmaxed sporyn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbubblepants Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, ZzVinniezZ said: because Lavling will always spawn any grineer level 20+...there is no avoiding that if you are using AOE stuffs and accidentally kill them. once the Lich is created it will never stop invading the solar system...my is 6 planets now and he stole most of my Requiem relics and Sorties reward. (1 riven) so if you are saying it doesn't effect normal gameplay it does...the Lich will steal from you despite you are not doing Lich mission. Iv had 1 for 3 days now and he is still on 1 planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FriendSharkey Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 After reading what this new system entails...I'm just gonna make it into my end game to see how long I can go in not getting a single Lich... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbubblepants Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, (PS4)FriendSharkey said: After reading what this new system entails...I'm just gonna make it into my end game to see how long I can go in not getting a single Lich... Its not too hard, they get marked after spawning and have a messege op up. I had to solo farm adro a couple of times to get one. And hes been sitting on eris and hasnt moved for 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k05h Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 vor 10 Stunden schrieb Fire2box: If veterans are busy doing Lich stuff then they can't possibly carry new players as the mission is separate from the normal node one. New players then won't get bored of having " nothing to kill". It is a clever start for a concept many players wanted for quite some time: Choose your difficulting when entering a mission. I thouroughly enjoy playing high level lich solo content. It feels a bit off when I have to farm some void traces with very low enemy levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodwill Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) I am personally... "alright" with the lich stuff. But I only say that as a person who has pretty much everything in the game (bar Primed Chamber and a few ephemeras) so the Lich stealing my stuff is quite... inconsequential. But I more than understand why this would be a hindrance to other players who do not want to participate in it. It's a counter-productive system. Oh? You are trying to gear up to fight level 60+ enemies? Too bad, let me take your stuff to make the grind even more of a headache. I'm pretty sure my sentiments would be different if this system was introduced at the beginning of Warframe. Personally, I would suggest that the Lich is completely void from the main game until you start a particular quest. So then players can opt in to do it when they are ready (or when it is fixed...) Edited November 4, 2019 by Goodwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 hours ago, SastusBulbas said: I just play. Not seen any Liches or whatever they are. Know very little, have little interest. I know enough, but interest...some, but I'm more oriented to NW and getting that third UF. My time is limited, so the liches will have to wait for this next weekend--maybe. As for keeping me out of low end missions, no. As long as Lith and Meso relics need farmed (and they always need farmed), then I have to be there. In the meantime, I just play with an eye on NW goals and the constant relic/trace farming. When the liches get annoying enough to attract attention, they we'll arrange some smackdown on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDMblue Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Why are people complaining about a system they have not tried? I red a few posts and it was clear they had never tried it. sorry to say I’m having a lot of fun with it. Making an army of converts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GEN-Son_17 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, BDMblue said: Why are people complaining about a system they have not tried? I red a few posts and it was clear they had never tried it. sorry to say I’m having a lot of fun with it. Making an army of converts. It's because kids like to bandwagon. I've already caught a few posters that were lying about playing it. What's worse is these people might actually like it but won't get a chance to play it by the time it reaches the consoles because it will be changed. Players watching other players playing and then forming their emotional opinions off of that "playtime" is the dumbest crap ever. You get a pass ONLY if you're under the age of 11. Edited November 4, 2019 by (PS4)GEN-Son_17 Context error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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