Protea materials.

[Annnoth]

13 minutes ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Can we just keep in mind that only a single digit percent of players have ever played Railjack?

This is the experience the overwhelming majority of the playerbase will have with Protea. My Feedback isn’t for you.

You have to think pretty good damn highly of yourself to be responding to Feedback intended for DE.

Thats factually incorrect information and we have no way of proving what the real statistics are. Im assuming your using the steam achievements?

2 issues wrong with it.

1. Nonsteam users. They exist and while probably a minority, still a sizable chunk.

2. Its a F2P game. I could download warframe, play for 5 minutes, and uninstall and it would count me. Those number were the single % digit of people who EVER touched the game up to this point who achieved it.

Just try to join someones railjack. It costs you nothing since you dont need a RJ to join a crew and if I recall they even added a very general "join any crew button". I dont understand why youre so resistant when we gave you exactly the information you needed to make this easier on you.

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by Annnoth

[Richeatue]

12 minutes ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Can we just keep in mind that only a single digit percent of players have ever played Railjack?

This is the experience the overwhelming majority of the playerbase will have with Protea. My Feedback isn’t for you.

You have to think pretty good damn highly of yourself to be responding to Feedback intended for DE.

 Well you posted it on a public forum with some pretty dramatic wording and no real research beforehand, you can't just expect people not to respond.

 

[_R_o_g_u_e_]

11 minutes ago, Annnoth said:

Thats factually incorrect information and we have no way of proving what the real statistics are. Im assuming your using the steam achievements?

2 issues wrong with it.

1. Nonsteam users. They exist and while probably a minority, still a sizable chunk.

2. Its a F2P game. I could download warframe, play for 5 minutes, and uninstall and it would count me. Those number were the single % digit of people who EVER touched the game up to this point who achieved it.

Just try to join someones railjack. It costs you nothing since you dont need a RJ to join a crew and if I recall they even added a very general "join any crew button". I dont understand why youre so resistant when we gave you exactly the information you needed to make this easier on you.

 

Mate 11% of people have done 10 Cetus bounties. 
Railjack statistics wouldn’t even be half of that.

[TARINunit9]

2 hours ago, NekroArts said:

You're basing off the potential amount of resources you can get from RJ to be the same as from Fortuna/PoE. The amount you can get from RJ is much higher than from those two combined.

They actually took RJ parts out of Plains/Vallis and put them on Eris/Lua, just as a heads up

[Richeatue]

3 minutes ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Mate 11% of people have done 10 Cetus bounties. 
Railjack statistics wouldn’t even be half of that.

I HIGHLY doubt only 11% of the playerbase has done 10 cetus bounties, I'm pretty sure that data is diluted somehow. They must mean 11% of any player that's ever downloaded warframe or something.

[Annnoth]

14 minutes ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Mate 11% of people have done 10 Cetus bounties. 
Railjack statistics wouldn’t even be half of that.

Again. Where are you basing this information off of? Making assumptions off incorrect statistics leads to inforrect assumptions.

I already mentioned why using achievment data is bad, you have no idea how many people drop F2P games before the furst hurdle appears. The people who play reglarly are probably barely the double digit of those who ever installed it.

This applies to any F2P game.

Edit: regardless. Just try joining a RJ game, at least I assume you havent tried yet. Statistics dont matter if you actually find a match.

Edited June 14, 2020 by Annnoth

[PurrrningBoop]

1 час назад, _R_o_g_u_e_ сказал:

You have to think pretty good damn highly of yourself to be responding to Feedback intended for DE.

Then why are you posting feedback in General discussion and not in the megathread in the Feedback subsection?

[Richeatue]

Just now, PurrrningBoop said:

Then why are you posting feedback in General discussion and not in the megathread in the Feedback subsection?

Exactly, thank you.

[GreyDeath789]

On 2020-06-12 at 10:29 PM, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

This is the most disgusted I have ever been with warframe. I did the quest, I sat through the grind. All god damn night. When I finally had her pierces I tried to build her.

Thousands of Carbides and Copernics. Weeks of god damn grind. Across both of my accounts I’ve been playing for nearly three years in total. I’ve seen you guys do some back handed stuff but this is a whole new level. 
 

To think that I was done, only to realise I have literally weeks of farming ahead of me has really got a chip on my shoulder.

No material cost for a build should ever take weeks to get, I am so disappointed in you.

I just checked the requirements and I have no cryotic cuz I used it all for kit guns, etc. and haven't done an excavation in probably a year...so time to "grind" that 1000 cryotic for the frame I have zero parts for...

As for the rest of the resources...it might just be the length of time of playing the game but I have many times the amount needed for everything but cryotic...even copernics (93k) aren't an issue. But I do feel the OPs pain cuz I am in need of titanium for RJ parts and that grind is boring as hell too...

Hope it doesn't take you weeks tho...

[_R_o_g_u_e_]

I caved and bought the frame with platinum 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

My options were, just continue to play the game and allow those resources to accumulate over time. Or begin and play Railjack, which I have no intention of doing right now while I’m still juggling;

cetus, Quills, Fortuna, little duck, syndicates, Eidolons, invasions and nightwave. Not to mention still moving towards Arbitrations.

I just don’t feel like I have room for a completely new system in the game right now. But the open worlds and the syndicates will be done soon, that will free up some time.

 

First time I’ve ever paid platinum for something I had all the parts for haha

Edited June 14, 2020 by _R_o_g_u_e_

[xcrimsonlegendx]

Maybe if you're trying to farm them from eximus units, just spend a few hours playing random railjack missions and you'll find you have more than you'd expect.

[Sailears]

Interesting, I've barely touched the first few nodes of railjack, mainly for nightwave challenges, but between that and normal missions seem to have passively gained thousands of these resources.
 

The Protea material requirements seem quite nice, compared with the granum void nonsense if not using or having one of the meta frames for this.

 

Just jump into one of the first RJ missions and play that for a bit, resources seem to rain in very fast. I too was apprehensive of railjack a while back, thinking would have to put in loads of hours to build one etc, but the early public missions are very easy and quite fun. 🙂

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by Sailears

[RamonLLLL]

With or without Railjack, those resources are in reasonable numbers and pretty easy to farm.

Hell, the hardest chunk of this update is the tedious grind to get Protea parts, if you spent plat on her just because you can't be bothered to farm resources, that's really on you.

[0_The_F00l]

4 hours ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Can we just keep in mind that only a single digit percent of players have ever played Railjack?

This is the experience the overwhelming majority of the playerbase will have with Protea. My Feedback isn’t for you.

You have to think pretty good damn highly of yourself to be responding to Feedback intended for DE.

Perhaps put it in the feedback section and not general discussion if that is your intent.

 

[(PSN)Miciobestia]

22 minutes ago, Sailears said:

Interesting, I've barely touched the first few nodes of railjack, mainly for nightwave challenges, but between that and normal missions seem to have passively gained thousands of these resources.
 

The Protea material requirements seem quite nice, compared with the granum void nonsense if not using or having one of the meta frames for this.

 

Just jump into one of the first RJ missions and play that for a bit, resources seem to rain in very fast. I too was apprehensive of railjack a while back, thinking would have to put in loads of hours to build one etc, but the early public missions are very easy and quite fun. 🙂

 

Cuz you can get all 3 of them as final prize (1200 of them and can be 2 too in one mission).

In fact there's no point going to look for asteroids and such, the 1200 prize is even on posit so best way is spam it finishing as fast as you can (you can aswell get 1200 titanium as prize).

Ps: 1500 actually, 1200 are other stuff

Edited June 14, 2020 by (PS4)Miciobestia

[Yagamilight123]

hace 4 horas, _R_o_g_u_e_ dijo:

Can we just keep in mind that only a single digit percent of players have ever played Railjack?

This is the experience the overwhelming majority of the playerbase will have with Protea. My Feedback isn’t for you.

You have to think pretty good damn highly of yourself to be responding to Feedback intended for DE.

If the feedback it isnt for us learn where to post it.... as they said , its a 30 minutes grind at most .3 Years in the game and you basically know nothing about it .... sad .

[(XBOX)CI shadow2397]

On 2020-06-12 at 11:29 PM, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

This is the most disgusted I have ever been with warframe. I did the quest, I sat through the grind. All god damn night. When I finally had her pierces I tried to build her.

Thousands of Carbides and Copernics. Weeks of god damn grind. Across both of my accounts I’ve been playing for nearly three years in total. I’ve seen you guys do some back handed stuff but this is a whole new level. 
 

To think that I was done, only to realise I have literally weeks of farming ahead of me has really got a chip on my shoulder.

No material cost for a build should ever take weeks to get, I am so disappointed in you.

If you’ve been playing for so long then you should know the material requirements for protea are easy to get in under a day. Just because you wanna be lazy doesn’t make it DEs fault

[(PSN)lumen2ne1]

6 hours ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

I caved and bought the frame with platinum 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

My options were, just continue to play the game and allow those resources to accumulate over time. Or begin and play Railjack, which I have no intention of doing right now while I’m still juggling;

cetus, Quills, Fortuna, little duck, syndicates, Eidolons, invasions and nightwave. Not to mention still moving towards Arbitrations.

I just don’t feel like I have room for a completely new system in the game right now. But the open worlds and the syndicates will be done soon, that will free up some time.

 

First time I’ve ever paid platinum for something I had all the parts for haha

You must be trolling. I refuse to believe someone would be this dense even after people tried to help you giving you all the tips on a few minutes, hour max of farm, even if you don't have a railjack, you can just use the matchmaking on railjack chart and join someone else and get those in a couple of missions of end rewards.

[DoomFruit]

6 hours ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

I caved and bought the frame with platinum 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

My options were, just continue to play the game and allow those resources to accumulate over time. Or begin and play Railjack, which I have no intention of doing right now while I’m still juggling;

Or just forget the frame entirely and do other things. You don't need Protea. I don't need it and I don't have it either, but that's because I haven't even tried to farm for it (or any of the new weapons) because the mission flow itself is coated in pure BS.

Kill an enemy which is tankier than everything else on the ship (or try to kill, the last time I saw one was in a kuva flood and I was unable to kill it before it teleported away, despite wailing on it for 2 minutes nonstop with the same orthos prime which made mincemeat out of everything else) combined to get a token. Expend this token to do another mission where you need to kill a mound of enemies using either a hyper-specialised build (which I refuse to do) or by sacrificing your melee weapon (I think, I've not even tried the xoris because I hate it so damn much). Then hope that the RNG has deigned to give you the part you need - 11% for the frame parts, and that's only if you kill enough to hit rotation C.

So no. I don't have a single one of the new weapons or the frame. And I don't care. I'd most likely just end up 30-ing and ditching them without a second thought anyway, so they can just join the ever-growing pile of "crap that I'm never going to touch".

Remember: if you plat out for something, you are saying "I approve of this decision" to DE in the only language that they recognise - money.

[xcrimsonlegendx]

With a booster doing today's sortie

[Tesseract7777]

16 hours ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Can we just keep in mind that only a single digit percent of players have ever played Railjack?

This is the experience the overwhelming majority of the playerbase will have with Protea. My Feedback isn’t for you.

You have to think pretty good damn highly of yourself to be responding to Feedback intended for DE.

I just want to point out, this IS a public forum, it's also not even in the right place for DE. This is general discussion, you want general feedback. 

You can't really be surprised other Tenno reply or disagree. 

I'm curious, do you not want to play railjack at all, or have you just not got around to building yours yet on PC? In the second case I definitely understand the frustration better, as I recently came back, only just finished my railjack, and am trying to play catch up ranking up like five syndicates at the same time. It's exhausting. So I get the frustration. 

But let's face it, you've been playing for years, you know Steve has been teasing this battleship thing for the Tenno since forever and they spent a lot of time on it. Unfortunately, part of game psychology is that they are going to try to "entice" you to do it, in some way or another, even if it just means grinding more efficiently for parts. If not a lot of people play it, as you said, then they are likely hoping to get more people to do it. 

[shadyadie]

Here's what you could've won

[Draconicdisciple]

I've been working on my railjack and have probably done less railjack than most people, and I still had plenty of carbides and copernics without grinding for them. Carbides can be easily grabbed by doing kuva lich missions, and copernics are easy to get from certain areas that's not railjack, although that's still a bit of grinding. Protea isn't necessarily supposed to be new player friendly it seems, none of the Fortuna-related frames are considering many of their parts drop of high level bounties and bosses. 

On 2020-06-13 at 7:18 PM, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

 

So either way, building Protea means that I have to begin my rail jack journey, from the floor. Which means the quest and all the starting phases.

So, for me even that’s going to take an entire week and quite a bit of farming.

Yes, I didn’t know these resources came from RJ, but even if they do, this is still the most obscene build requirement in the entire game.

 

You don't need your own railjack at least, if you're set to public you should be able to queue into any of the current players running missions with their railjacks on public. Should save you some trouble. 

[(PSN)Silverback73]

On 2020-06-12 at 11:29 PM, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

This is the most disgusted I have ever been with warframe. I did the quest, I sat through the grind. All god damn night. When I finally had her pierces I tried to build her.

Thousands of Carbides and Copernics. Weeks of god damn grind. Across both of my accounts I’ve been playing for nearly three years in total. I’ve seen you guys do some back handed stuff but this is a whole new level. 
 

To think that I was done, only to realise I have literally weeks of farming ahead of me has really got a chip on my shoulder.

No material cost for a build should ever take weeks to get, I am so disappointed in you.

I’ve been there.  When the mechanics dominate and smother immersion and fun, you get upset.

It’s a simple choice after that.  Forgo the content, pay for it, or grind it out.

There is a reason I don’t have Hyldrin, but have every other frame.  I felt it lacked integrity because it wasn’t the Warframe combat I love and the grind is brazen. 

I financially reward DE for great story, immersion, art, great and engaging gameplay.

Maybe that makes me in the minority.

 

Edited June 15, 2020 by (PS4)Silverback73

[vanaukas]

On 2020-06-14 at 12:30 AM, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Can we just keep in mind that only a single digit percent of players have ever played Railjack?

This is the experience the overwhelming majority of the playerbase will have with Protea. My Feedback isn’t for you.

You have to think pretty good damn highly of yourself to be responding to Feedback intended for DE.

Then post your feedback on the feedback forums. here is "genral discussion", we (players) discuss things.