MythicPulse Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 While I appreciate the steel path having stance forma, is there any chance we could see a return of Umbral forma outside of the one from nightwave? We're averaging around three umbral forma a year as it is, I don't think putting it in the steel path shop (with a ludicrous price point) would hurt anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---Swaggi--- Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Excited to try out the tweaked Eidolons and the 6th tier Bounty 😄 1 hour ago, [DE]Megan said: Xoris Interaction Changes: Certain Warframe Abilities and Exalted weapons will now reset the Melee Combo Counter only if the Xoris is being used. The overwhelming Damage output of certain Warframe Abilities was not our intention with an infinite Melee Combo weapon, and the conversation of ‘Xoris or you’re doing it wrong’ is greatly restrictive in terms of player choice. You guys didnt get it do you? Havent you read the countless comments or watched the videos on it that this is just a wrong understanding of the situation? Jump to 7:30 then you will see that this „change“ changes absolutely nothing! We can still do millions of damage ez. (Better than with Xoris because AGAIN Xoris passive was just a convenient QoL and had nothing to do with the Dmg output god damn... 😞) How @HowWesWasOne already mentioned. This line is just a lie as a whole 1st: It hasnt affect the Damage Outpunt of certain Warframe Abilities. Since we are just speaking about Combo DURATION2nd: It was not restricitve in terms of player choice. THIS „Change“ is making it restricitve! (again)3rd: You guys just changed the line from „Xoris or you doing it wrong“ to „Stat-Stick (With Riven ofc) or you doing it wrong“ as it was like always. Because in terms of Damage the following is and always have been the rule: Stat-Stick > Xoris Open your mind and realize that this change was not thought through well... If you really wanna change something about that „Pseudo-Exalted Weapons“ Issue you need to make a change of the basic fundament. e.g. make these Abilities separately modable. Similar to Garudas Talons. By deequipping our Melee we would have access to mod our „Psuedo exalted weapon“. You just get rid off symptoms instead of fixing the core issue we have with these „Pseudo exalted weapons“!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lessiem Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 hace 11 minutos, [DE]Megan dijo: Xoris Interaction Changes: Certain Warframe Abilities and Exalted weapons will now reset the Melee Combo Counter only if the Xoris is being used. The overwhelming Damage output of certain Warframe Abilities was not our intention with an infinite Melee Combo weapon, and the conversation of ‘Xoris or you’re doing it wrong’ is greatly restrictive in terms of player choice. Warframe Abilities / Exalted Warframe weapons affected by this are: Ash Bladestorm Atlas Landslide Baruuk Serene Storm Excalibur Exalted Blade Gara Shattered Lash Khora Whipclaw Valkyr Talons Wukong Iron Staff The full breakdown can be read here. More than 47 pages of healthy and constructive discussion (there are some exceptions) for this. Sadness is the only word that comes to my mind to describe you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrai-Num Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 > enemies do have a 1.5x multiplier on Health + Armor + Shields > Enemy Health/Shield/Armor: 1+1.5 = 2.50 (250%) The first statement is wrong, DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayInvictus Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 The Xoris nerf gives this otherwise interesting update a very bad taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stahlta Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Finally we can test our mettle. Thanks alot for the update DE! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raitlor Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Still no news on Weeping Wounds or Blood rush not working on Garuda's talons? Still no news on Gladiator mod set bonus not affecting Garuda's talons or any exalted weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkateer Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Steel path was a good add-on tbh. People are just hella pissed about Xoris nerf. When do ya'll go around nerfing the wierdest S#&$ man, i swear. Besides, its not even the STRONGEST statstick, there are other weapons that ware WAYYY stronger. All xoris did it give people a good QOL improvement. I want to be able to go take a piss without having to worry about my combo reset-ing after I get back. There are so many other S#&$ that need to be fixed, so many bugs. Fix those first god dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAce Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-KingDain- Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 We want Umbra Forma. Not trash stance forma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father_Pucci_In_Heaven Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I'm not quite sure if your balancing/development team is actually this inept regarding the Xoris or are you just super greedy regarding the riven market as those rivens are blatantly stronger than the Xoris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geraion Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 RIP Xoris, more restrictions with a copy-paste from the thread into this, no feedback taken onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lainverse Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said: Xoris Interaction Changes: You guys clearly never bothered to actually check how the very same abilities interact with other weapons, Naramon stance and the rivens. Otherwise you wouldn't call damage output from Xoris "overwhelming". And now it's just a meh weapon instead of a nice starter status stick with a nice gimmick which is nowhere near actually OP. 25 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said: To help prevent accidental Kuva Lich generation from quick tapping the Mercy action, you must now ‘Hold X’ to perform a Mercy on a Kuva Larvling. Thanks, stepped on this landmine twice already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraveLordCrow Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, xZephyrosx said: Thanks for the steel path.... But no thanks for the nerf to Xoris ... why are you guys not listening to the community for once ... Cause the Xoris was never suppose to work that way and was a needed fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portlalaland Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I'm not seeing the steel path switch/button. I'm pretty sure I've done all the nodes (did many arbitrations). Where's the button again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davchun Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Imagine if umbra forma was added instead of stance forma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythicPulse Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Xoris nerf isn't the end of the world. Losing a 12x combo multiplier on every exalted ability interaction is just a step back to the way things were before the xoris, it's been less than a month, you don't base your entire identity on the ability to xoris / blood rush / weeping wounds / gladiator set bonus with your character. You can get along without it, just like you did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallowieners Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Yooooooo Khora deluxe lets gooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Lugia Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I don't know why, but that makes me uncomfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarl5000 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Guessing Khora doesn't have a Leverian (I know she got that ghoul lore bit) and nothing on Garuda Leverian since she didn't get that with her Deluxe skin. I was hoping we would get to learn more about both of the frames doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawlatron Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Hey DE, if ya didn't like Xoris damage, you reaaaaaally should look into Rivens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staranow Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Was doing an Arbitration when this hit, went to extract in case of bugs, little did I know I would be #*!%ed over anyway. Am stuck in extraction, can't move, no longer see squad mates, no enemies and my ping is 0. I can't even see the rewards I got so I can take a screenshot, to *@##$ at your support team when I have to alt f4. Thanks a lot DE oh and THE XORIS NERF IS A MISTAKE. You were wrong before and your still wrong. Have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generally_Zod Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Time to only ever use Naramon with all my exalted frames to get exactly the same effect as the Xoris. Really though, this nerf is ill-informed, and should be reverted. The xoris is not the most powerful stat stick, only the most convenient. Really, it would probably be better to drop the stat stick mechanic entirely and let all exalted effects be moddable in some way if interactions like this are not wanted by DE. There will always be a best option, and a large part of the community will flock to it. Xoris was simply another great option on top of already existing ones, and did not detract from their usefulness and potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarl5000 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, RougeMagma said: I'm not seeing the steel path switch/button. I'm pretty sure I've done all the nodes (did many arbitrations). Where's the button again? Did you talk to Teshin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaggelos Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Thank you so much for the Steel Path DE! I've been waiting for it to drop for over a month now, and it's finally here! I also hope more modes get integrated into the SP, like Syndicate Missions, Kuva Liches, Invasions etc... Keep up the good work and thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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