(PSN)bdr1414 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I'm not sure that I have a grasp on the concept of Dungeons, but if in the case we don't have them in the game why isn't it an endgame plan ? & does empyrean fall in the category of a dungeon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, (PS4)bdr1414 said: why isn't it an endgame plan ? Why would it? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)OriginalEquinox Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Probably not, there used to be these things called raids which were pretty good apparently but they were scrapped for whatever reason. DE seems to have gone down a path of noob friendly content and I doubt they'll turn away now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, (PS4)bdr1414 said: does empyrean fall in the category of a dungeon ? No. Dungeons are closed areas of different sizes that commonly have only one available route towards the end of it. In other words, dungeons are sh*t. The tilesets we have on the other hand have many areas to them, with multiple routes available to head towards the extraction point. So no, they're not dungeons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabbynaru Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Every single map except Orb Vallis and Plains of Eidolon? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)bdr1414 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, DeMonkey said: Why would it? that's what I'm asking , what are the pros & cons , does it fit to be an endgame ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 This type of qeastion makes me think of games like Minecraft and WoW and I'm not sure how to take that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, (PS4)OriginalEquinox said: Probably not, there used to be these things called raids which were pretty good apparently but they were scrapped for whatever reason. DE seems to have gone down a path of noob friendly content and I doubt they'll turn away now They were removed because every single update even hotfixes would break them. Most updates featured lines and lines of raid fixes, and whenever they broke the community get VERY salty till they were fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Circle_of_Psi said: This type of qeastion makes me think of games like Minecraft and WoW and I'm not sure how to take that Can we have a portal in a cave on the plains which takes us to a dragon boss fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingvaldemir Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Miser_able said: Can we have a portal in a cave on the plains which takes us to a dragon boss fight? well... we have a cave that lead us to a giant spider robot boss fight. does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftasacoursing Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, Miser_able said: Can we have a portal in a cave on the plains which takes us to a dragon boss fight? Well warframe is sci-fi not fantasy, so dragons don’t really work. Unless you’re implying the orokin made dragons and we haven’t heard anything about them in thousands of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, swiftasacoursing said: Well warframe is sci-fi not fantasy, so dragons don’t really work. Unless you’re implying the orokin made dragons and we haven’t heard anything about them in thousands of years It was a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I’d actually like to see DE tackle a dungeon like gamemode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I saw a lot of people comparing the Wolf Hunts to dungeons? Not sure if they really counted though. 33 minutes ago, swiftasacoursing said: Well warframe is sci-fi not fantasy, so dragons don’t really work. Unless you’re implying the orokin made dragons and we haven’t heard anything about them in thousands of years The Orokin have, among other things, made a space-time manipulation demigod who dresses like he's from the Victorian era, psychic and psychotic terraforming von neumann probes and some red stuff which lets you steal someone's body, all of which we didn't hear about for a decent chunk of time. So, honestly... best not to rule that out entirely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 SO/ESO is the closest thing mechanically. Thematically, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) I dunno what RPG dungeons you guys have been doing, but "instanced missions" like in Warframe are pretty much the basis of dungeons. Aside from the two open worlds, the entirety of Warframe is dungeons. Edited September 21, 2019 by rapt0rman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Kuljack Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, o0Despair0o said: No. Dungeons are closed areas of different sizes that commonly have only one available route towards the end of it. In other words, dungeons are sh*t. The tilesets we have on the other hand have many areas to them, with multiple routes available to head towards the extraction point. So no, they're not dungeons. You have clearly never played a game of Dungeons & Dragons, or any good dungeon crawler game. There is always a ‘destination’ but a straight and narrow path is rare in the good ones. I agree, that would be S#&$ but usually isn’t the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, o0Despair0o said: No. Dungeons are closed areas of different sizes that commonly have only one available route towards the end of it. In other words, dungeons are sh*t. The tilesets we have on the other hand have many areas to them, with multiple routes available to head towards the extraction point. So no, they're not dungeons. Tile sets ARE dungeons. “dungeons” in OP’s sense seem to be a thematic thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lollybomb Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 4 hours ago, o0Despair0o said: No. Dungeons are closed areas of different sizes that commonly have only one available route towards the end of it. In other words, dungeons are sh*t. The tilesets we have on the other hand have many areas to them, with multiple routes available to head towards the extraction point. So no, they're not dungeons. Going to the left or the right of a pillar or other obstacle does not make multiple routes. You can walk through a room however you want, but to go from the start of the map to the end, will always be a singular path from room to room. Warframe's maps never have multiple routes through them. There's never a time when you have the option of going from room A to B to C, or A to D to C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrazyBeaTzu Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Uhm, just because you played other games doesn't mean they have to follow whatever you're used to. You're in the warframe world. The warframe world isn't here for you lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_a_Turtle Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Closest we have to dungeons are boss fight maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailsx Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 hours ago, swiftasacoursing said: Well warframe is sci-fi not fantasy, so dragons don’t really work. Unless you’re implying the orokin made dragons and we haven’t heard anything about them in thousands of years War Within spoiler. Maybe we have heard of them... just not traditional European dragons. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 hours ago, (PS4)OriginalEquinox said: Probably not, there used to be these things called raids which were pretty good apparently but they were scrapped for whatever reason. DE seems to have gone down a path of noob friendly content and I doubt they'll turn away now the reason being that if raids werent removed then the plains of eidolon would be obsolete/deserted in a week to a month, so trials/raids died and had the arcanes from them moved to eidolons, thus making poe relevant all of a sudden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CommanderC2121 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, Methanoid said: the reason being that if raids werent removed then the plains of eidolon would be obsolete/deserted in a week to a month, so trials/raids died and had the arcanes from them moved to eidolons, thus making poe relevant all of a sudden. Raids were removed because no one played them. About 3% at most of the player base actively did raids, and raids themselves caused many bugs that required time to fix. They were not worth the effort put into them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 hours ago, (PS4)CommanderC2121 said: Raids were removed because no one played them. About 3% at most of the player base actively did raids, and raids themselves caused many bugs that required time to fix. They were not worth the effort put into them. they were far from ridden with serious bugs, at most some probably easy to change or fix puzzle/pressure pad related issues, its not like they were hugely in-depth, they were still simple at their core and certainly something that should have had time given to them to improve upon, i would still rather have improved raids than the boring godzilla fights we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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