The Helminth: Dev Workshop

[Cubbage]

If this is dead on arrival it will truly be in glorious DE fashion to show off something actually possibly worth something, and then completely screwing it and themselves in the process.

We need a Dead on Arrival dance emote, just for the occasion.

[IRVoidGuru]

2 minutes ago, EmberStar said:

When did anyone say endgame?  Why does every new system DE adds get declared as "endgame" by someone?  "Advanced system" doesn't mean endgame, and never has.

OP for sure says "very experienced warframe players" 

Does MR 8 say very experienced Players to you?

[xcrimsonlegendx]

Reduced the range on Larva? I don't see how that is an OP ability and would need nerfing.

Honestly the limited choice of mediocre abilities on offer coupled with this kind of stuff, it just kills my interest in this feature.

[Jarriaga]

1 hour ago, selig_fay said:

Let's calm down. We don't know the numbers yet. If it is 1200 for Defy, 35% for roar and 15 seconds for dispenser, it will be worse, but it will still be good.

The problem there is that the only way for, say, Mind Control or Reave to become viable options over Defy, Roar or Dispenser is to nerf them to 10% their current effectiveness. You can't expect for the nerfs to be just "mild" so the abilities remain good if the purpose is to make them all viable because the gap is way too large to begin with. The "good" abilities are so far ahead of things such as Mind Control that they might as well be in a different solar system. That's how big of a nerf they'd need.

[(XBOX)Veytok]

Way to shoot yourself in the damn foot. 
the mr req was perfectly fine. Everything was alright, you should’ve just buffed rap abilities instead

 smfh

 

 guess you guys forgot there are other people that have been playing for awhile

[(XBOX)AbyssalRaven922]

I'll be frank,  Reducing the mastery rank requirement for this content by almost half is absolutely ridiculous there is no need to do this. You were finally putting  out end game content to high level players. At that level there is nothing about this game that has any semblance of balance.  Balance is gone, out of the window, with the introduction of several META changing, mods weapons, warframe abilities, and other such inclusions prior to anything involving this update. 

 Mastery rank 8 is still a new player, a low level player, I (MR24) could get to MR8 in about 2 maybe 3 weeks putting in no more than 4 hours a day in this game.  I could definitely do so without even unlocking arbitrations the steel path or anything else that would be considered hard or challenging content within this game. Starting it at MR15 when you announced that at the beginning of this Dev workshop also seemed low to me. If the riven system has a maximum MR of 18 I see no reason why a system like this should be considered less powerful than the riven system and should have been given the respect due to it at  MR18 possibly higher.  This seems like yet another bid to allow low level, novice players to experience everything from the start with little effort or real investment into the game.  This system had the possibility of being that thing that a player works toward a final goal a long term point to get to. Instead by reducing the mastery rank and then further reducing the power of this system makes it almost insulting to late game players who were otherwise extremely excited about this new system.

 I completely understand your position and how difficult it must be to create a system like this without completely ruining the overall design and intent of the gameplay that makes this game so fun.  However I desperately ask that the DE team reconsider the thought process behind these changes.  More frames strength has always lied in the ambition of the development team behind it and their will to move forward and achieve that ambition.  Backpedaling is not the answer. This team has become famous for its innovation and will-to-do the undone please don't falter.

 Thank you and stay safe.

[KrazyKavatLady]

On 2020-08-12 at 11:27 AM, [DE]Rebecca said:

We have also changed the Mastery Rank Prerequisite of the Helminth Segment to 8 (was 15

Welp, now it's too low. 10-12 would have made more sense.

[Risitas123]

1 hour ago, [DE]Megan said:

AUGUST 19TH UPDATE:

Greetings, Tenno!

The launch of Heart of Deimos grows near, and we have some Helminth updates since we last posted! Below are 2 parts of updated/clarifying information that touches both Infused Warframe Abilities and the Helminth Segment acquisition.  

PART 1 - Changes to select Infused Warframe Abilities

Please keep in mind we’re still testing/playing around with the values for each, hence why the values are not present below:

The following only apply to Infused Warframe Abilities:

Rhino - Roar
Diminished Damage increase

Mirage - Eclipse
Diminished Damage increase and cap Damage Reduction 

Valkyr - Warcry
Attack speed increase reduced

Protea - Dispenser
Duration reduced

Nidus - Larva
Radius reduced

Wukong - Defy
Armor capped

Why do these Infused Warframe Abilities have these rules?
It was apparent in player feedback and play testing that these Infused Warframe Abilities had the potential to be the overwhelming choice; which is not ideal. Instead of changing the Ability outright due to those concerns, we decided to give them slight rules when Infused.

PART 2 - Helminth Segment Acquisition

As already indicated in this Dev Workshops original post, the Helminth Segment is acquired in the Heart of Deimos in the Entrati Syndicate. To expand on that, this means you’ll need to progress within the Entrati Syndicate located within the Necralisk to obtain the Helminth Segment before you can start experimenting with everything Helminth. 

Without spoiling too much, the Helminth Segment is currently obtained in Rank 3 of the Entrati Syndicate. This reminder is simply to set expectations on what you’ll have access to upon logging into the Heart of Deimos. 

That’s all for now!

Should change some of the literal useless abilities rather than nerfing the decent ones into the floor. Even after the nerf Roar will be the most used ability just because most of the others are bottom tier.

[Pendragon1951]

@DE_Megan Question for Megan ONLY Will we be able to rush subsumes, yes, no, undecided??

[tennomantra]

Who is this for?
We consider this a customization system for very experienced Warframe players (Mastery Rank 15 8 5 3* Prerequisite). We do not intend to let newer players unlock this system. We intentionally placed the Segment deep into progression to ensure only experienced players could access the Segment and begin their journey with Helminth.

[(XBOX)Dex Xean]

2 minutes ago, Jarriaga said:

The problem there is that the only way for, say, Mind Control or Reave to become viable options over Defy, Roar or Dispenser is to nerf them to 10% their current effectiveness. You can't expected for the nerfs to be just "mild" if the purpose is to make them all viable because the gap is way too large to begin with.

Dont worry DE will notice most of the list is mediocre in the first place and will buff those other skills one day. /sarcasm

[jmthebigman]

6 minutes ago, EmberStar said:

When did anyone say endgame?  Why does every new system DE adds get declared as "endgame" by someone?  "Advanced system" doesn't mean endgame, and never has.

Advanced system shouldnt be early either.... DE catering some vocal minority yet again.

Also I see no reason Dispensary gets nerfed because you cant cast multiple anyway....

[Asterionfu]

why nerf the good abilities that could give more use to non used frames?

[Ozzyman89]

DE at Tennocon: "This system is really meant for veteran players and not for newer players"

DE now: "lol just kidding, we're gonna cater to newer players because we don't understand how to incentivize people to stick around."

[GreyEnneract]

[0asu]

was hyped when the ability list was announced

nerfs to all of the good abilities ruined the hype

DE stop killing our vibe

[Jarriaga]

Just now, (XB1)Dex Xean said:

Dont worry DE will notice most of the list is mediocre in the first place and will buff those other skills one day. /sarcasm

Reb actually said several abilities were due to be buffed for the system during her interview with Shy on August 3rd when she revealed Zephyr's chosen ability and the buff. I don't know what happened.

[Delphan_Gruss]

hace 1 minuto, tennomantra dijo:

Who is this for?
We consider this a customization system for very experienced Warframe players (Mastery Rank 15 8 5 3* Prerequisite). We do not intend to let newer players unlock this system. We intentionally placed the Segment deep into progression to ensure only experienced players could access the Segment and begin their journey with Helminth.

KEKW

[Han_Sulu]

"We do not intend to let newer players unlock this system. We intentionally placed the Segment deep into progression to ensure only experienced players could access the Segment and begin their journey with Helminth"

 

For once experienced/veteran players thought that just maybe they were getting something meant for them. Far too much of this game is geared towards being easily accessible by new players which ends up being boring, under-tuned, and mostly unrewarding both in terms of loot and in terms of challenge for players who have played this game the longest (and more than likely collectively spent the most money).

The mastery change is the biggest gut punch to me. but these new "rules" are also not okay, mainly due to the reasoning behind the changes. I need all the Devs to burn the following phrase into their minds and keep it in mind before making changes based on knee jerk reactions.

 

There. Will. Always. Be. A. Meta.

 

You got that memorized?

 

If you nerf roar, eclipse, and warcry. Okay well now we use Smite and Shock with the augments. Nerf those, well there is always equinox's rage, Nourishing strike, and shooting gallery, etc. Larva, defy, and dispenser nerfed? oh well, I guess its Ensnare, elemental ward, and either well of life(pool of life), Pull(greedy pull), Spectrorage(Spectrosiphon) to fill those gaps. Are you gonna eventually nerf those as well because they become the "overwhelming choice".  By that point the system is so watered down from nerfs that its not worth using and becomes yet another bit of content that players ignore because its just not worth it. 

 

Even worse I can easily see this whole system becoming the Warframe ability version of rivens, and I can promise you DE if that happens I will be done with Warframe and I won't be the only person to leave. 

 

 

But I'm not going to be the type to complain and not give proper constructive criticism. So here is my suggestion, Delay the update and do another test server, if there was ever a time for one this is it. Allow every test account access to all subsume abilities and let the community go wild with the un-nerfed abilities for the test period. You will probably find that not every one will default to Roar because not every frame can build for the 300+% power strength needed to make the most of the ability and if they do try and force it to work then they are essentially nerfing themselves by screwing up the rest of their build. 

Either do a test server or launch with the un-nerfed versions of the abilities and let the system run its course first before doing something like this. 

[-Krism-]

31 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

To offer further clarification on why we changed the Mastery Rank Prerequisite to MR 8:

There's many factors that come into play in order to engage with the Helminth system, such as:

• Having an ongoing supply of Resources that you don't need elsewhere to feed your Helminth
• Working your way up the Helminth rankings to unlock more features
• Having Warframes your ready/willing to Subsume

Looking at the above, we can see that higher rank players will be more equipped to offer these things to Helminth out the gate, where a MR 8 player will start with more accessible/cheaper Helminth Abilities first before diving deeper. Thus allowing MR 8 players to participate in Helminth and grow as they go.

1. A MR 8 doesn't need a resource sink, let them build up at least

2. At this point, most players won't even have grasped half of the systems Warframe offers them, & you want to give them a whole new one on top of that?

3. Then let them farm frames again later. What's wrong with them selling some warframes to make room for others? They'll just have to farm them again later. & considering your first point, MR 8 have too much resources already right?

[(XBOX)Dex Xean]

Just now, Jarriaga said:

Reb actually said several abilities were due to be buffed for the system during her interview with Shy on August 3rd when she revealed Zephyr's chosen ability and the buff. I don't know what happened.

yea I saw that b4 I think they just realizing how powerful those skills that were just lowered in effectiveness is and are trying to fix it. What they should have done is just only mediocre skills in the first place and buff them all to be much be better. Imo Roar dmg buff is too powerful. Its very hard to convince someone to use limbo banish over it or fire walker instead. 

[Hierarch777]

On 2020-08-12 at 7:27 PM, [DE]Rebecca said:

THE HELMINTH: DEV WORKSHOP.

Tenno the time has come for our comprehensive Dev Workshop on The Helminth System (formerly known as ‘Helminth Chrysalis System, we reduced the name length for ‘Mouth’feel)! This Dev Workshop is subject to change, but here is everything you need to know about THE HELMINTH!

We debuted this system at TennoCon 2020 - rewatch here:

https://youtu.be/KoKO1nAk0MQ?t=1693

The Helminth System is an expansion of the Helminth room on your Orbiter - you may only know this room as an infested space that allows you to remove the Helminth Cyst. With the ‘Heart of Deimos’ Update, that’s all changing. The Helminth system enables you to customize your Warframes by infusing new Abilities in place of existing Abilities.

How does it work?
To participate in the Helminth, you must obtain the ‘Helminth Segment’. This is acquired in the Heart of Deimos in the Entrati Syndicate and is then installed on your Orbiter in the Helminth Room to begin your Helminth journey!

Once ready, there are 2 key things this System offers:

- You can replace 1 Ability per Warframe.
- Every Warframe can be Subsumed to permanently provide 1 specific Ability to Helminth.


Who is this for?
We consider this a customization system for very experienced Warframe players (Mastery Rank 15 8 Prerequisite). We do not intend to let newer players unlock this system. We intentionally placed the Segment deep into progression to ensure only experienced players could access the Segment and begin their journey with Helminth.


What are Resources / Secretions?
Virtually every Resource you’ve ever earned can be fed to Helminth - your stockpiles have a new home! This Feeding creates SECRETIONS, which allow you to utilize the Helminth for Ability customization.
Helminth has a diverse appetite - make sure you feed Helminth Resources they want to eat to get the best Secretion results! Your choices on what you’ve fed Helminth will determine its willingness to reward secretions - change it up for best results!
 

Permanent?
Infused Abilities are removable with the click of a button - they will stay within a given Warframe as long as you decide you want it!

Subsuming a Warframe is permanent  - only Subsume Warframes you are sure you do not want to play with. You can always re-earn or re-buy a subsumed Warframe.

 

Do Configurations matter?
You can deeply customize by only replacing Abilities on certain Configurations, as seen in the Demo! But we would like to expand this further to demonstrate just how deep you can go.

You can have 1 different Ability infused PER config!

So if you have Excalibur in the chair - you could put Shock on Configuration A, Molt on Configuration B, and Firewalker on Configuration C!

For example, if you wanted Shock applied to Excalibur on Configuration A but wanted Configuration B and Configuration C to stay default with Slash Dash, you can do so!

 

What does Ranking Helminth do?
As you feed and use the Helminth system, you will rank up! Each Rank unlocks something different - from a new power, to more Subsume Slots (max Rank Helminth = unlimited Subsume Slots), make sure you progress through the Ranks by regularly Feeding Helminth, Subsuming, and Infusing your Warframes! 

What are the Helminth Abilities?
Helminth Provides unique abilities of their own - these are subject to change before launch, but here is the current list:
 

"EMPOWER"

"Increase the power strength of your next ability."
 

“ENERGY MUNITIONS"

"Imbue your weapons with ammo efficiency."
 

"INFESTED MOBILITY"

"Increase your sprint and parkour speed."
 

"MARKED FOR DEATH"

“Stun an enemy, next damage you deal to it, will be dealt to all enemies around it."
 

"REBUILD SHIELDS"

"Instantly restore shields."
 

"PERSPICACITY"

"Your next hack will be automatic."
 

"COMPANION HEAL"

"Heal your companion and call it to your side."
 

"EXPEDITE SUFFERING"

"Hit enemies in a cone, affected enemies will have their Bleed and Toxin status removed and their remaining damage dealt in a burst."


What is Infusion?
Infusion is the process of injecting a Warframe with an Ability - whether it be one of Helminth’s own, or another Warframes. Every Warframe can receive 1 Infused ability at a time in any Ability slot (i.e you could place Shock on any of the 4 Ability slots). 

 

What is Subsuming? 
In addition to Helminth’s own Abilities, you can Subsume a Warframe to obtain 1 specific Ability permanently in Helminth’s memory (list below). We do not allow the Subsuming of any Prime Warframes, but you can Infuse Abilities on Prime Warframes! 

Subsuming is the act of permanently providing a base Warframe into the Helminth’s biology. 1 Warframe can be subsumed every 23 hours. The Warframe can be any Rank. 

What Abilities are earned on Subsuming a Warframe?

The following table outlines the current Ability a given Warframe will provide on the Subsume action. This is subject to change before launch. 

WARFRAME	ABILITY	AUGMENT	DEV NOTES
Ash	Shuriken	Seeking Shuriken
Atlas	Petrify	Ore Gaze	We will not create Rubble.
Banshee	Silence	Savage Silence
Baruuk	Lull	Endless Lullaby
Chroma	Elemental Ward	Everlasting Ward
Ember	Fire Blast	Healing Flame
Equinox	Rest & Rage	Calm & Frenzy	We will use Rest or Rage depending on your Energy Colour.
Excalibur	Radial Blind	Radiant Finish
Frost	Ice Wave	Ice Wave Impede
Gara	Spectrorage	Spectrosiphon
Garuda	Blood Altar	n/a
Gauss	Thermal Sunder	n/a
Grendel	Nourish	n/a	Keeps the heal and give Nourish Strike only.
Harrow	Condemn	Tribunal
Hildryn	Pillage	Blazing Pillage	Drains 50 Energy instead of 50 Shield.
Hydroid	Tempest Barrage	Corroding Barrage
Inaros	Desiccation	Desiccation’s Curse
Ivara	Quiver	Empowered Quiver	Tap Cloak, Hold Noise. Augment only affects Cloak and Dashwire.
Khora	Ensnare	n/a
Limbo	Banish	Rift Haven	Base Ability Change: Add ‘Cancel ability on Hold’ to let enemies out of Rift.
Loki	Decoy	Savior Decoy
Mag	Pull	Greedy Pull
Mesa	Shooting Gallery	Muzzle Flash
Mirage	Eclipse	Total Eclipse
Nekros	Terrify	Creeping Terrify
Nezha	Fire Walker	Pyroclastic Flow
Nidus	Larva	Larva Burst
Nova	Null Star	Neutron Star
Nyx	Mind Control	Mind Freak
Oberon	Smite	Smite Infusion
Octavia	Resonator	Conductor
Protea	Dispensary	n/a
Revenant	Reave	Blinding Reave
Rhino	Roar	Piercing Roar
Saryn	Molt	Regen Molt
Titania	Spellbind	Spellbound Harvest
Trinity	Well Of Life	Pool of Life	Base Ability Buffed - Now does small amount of heal over time over a large range. If you hit the enemy, a % of the damage dealt gets converted into AoE heal.
Valkyr	Warcry	Eternal War
Vauban	Tesla Nervos	Tesla Bank
Volt	Shock	Shock Trooper
Wisp	Breach Surge	n/a
Wukong	Defy	n/a
Xaku	Xata’s Whisper	n/a
Zephyr	Airburst	n/a	Base Ability Buffed - now has a HOLD or TAP functionality. HOLD to receive original functionality. TAP to suck enemies in a wind Vortex.

What are my safeguards?

Since you can remove an Ability at any time with the click of a button, you’ll be able to safely experiment with many creative combinations.

For example, if you replace Grendel’s ‘1’, your kit doesn’t really work! If you change around or re-assign Abilities already assigned to Railjack Tactical use, you simply may not have one, or have a new one in its place! If you put Hildryn’s PIllage on Inaros, you don’t get Shields, but you do get diminished Armor/Shields on enemies on cast.

It’s all up to you - have fun experimenting, Tenno!

What about Damage buffing Abilities?

As you can see, we have two Abilities that increase damage: Mirage’s Eclipse, and Rhino’s Roar. We are creating a special case for these Abilities when infused on Warframes with similar Abilities (i.e Chroma, Mirage, Rhino, Octavia). When you infuse these, you will receive a prompt that you can only have 1 Damage Buffing ability at a time, and thus you are limited to replacing said ability type. Which is to say - Damage Buffing abilities can only be swapped with Damage Buffing Abilities on Warframes that already have them. However, that limitation does not apply to the other 30+ Warframes. 

 

What exactly is going on here with the Warframe Subsuming?

Warframes that are Subsumed join the Helminth in an eternal bond. They will live on in a Lotus flower that matches the colours of the Subsumed Warframe, as a permanent honor. See below for an example of the Helminth garden after 5 Subsumes:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Is ‘Helminth’ a permanent name?

Don’t like it? You can rename your Helminth at any time!

Is Helminth a Cat or Dog ‘Person’?

Well, you’ll find out… 

 

Thank you very much for reading our Dev Workshop on the upcoming Helminth Feature - see you in game on August 25 on all platforms!  

======================

AUGUST 19TH UPDATE:

Greetings, Tenno!

The launch of Heart of Deimos grows near, and we have some Helminth updates since we last posted! Below are 2 parts of updated/clarifying information that touches both Infused Warframe Abilities and the Helminth Segment acquisition.  

PART 1 - Changes to select Infused Warframe Abilities

Please keep in mind we’re still testing/playing around with the values for each, hence why the values are not present below:

The following only apply to Infused Warframe Abilities:

Rhino - Roar
Diminished Damage increase

Mirage - Eclipse
Diminished Damage increase and cap Damage Reduction 

Valkyr - Warcry
Attack speed increase reduced

Protea - Dispenser
Duration reduced

Nidus - Larva
Radius reduced

Wukong - Defy
Armor capped

Why do these Infused Warframe Abilities have these rules?
It was apparent in player feedback and play testing that these Infused Warframe Abilities had the potential to be the overwhelming choice; which is not ideal. Instead of changing the Ability outright due to those concerns, we decided to give them slight rules when Infused.

PART 2 - Helminth Segment Acquisition

As already indicated in this Dev Workshops original post, the Helminth Segment is acquired in the Heart of Deimos in the Entrati Syndicate. To expand on that, this means you’ll need to progress within the Entrati Syndicate located within the Necralisk to obtain the Helminth Segment before you can start experimenting with everything Helminth. 

Without spoiling too much, the Helminth Segment is currently obtained in Rank 3 of the Entrati Syndicate. This reminder is simply to set expectations on what you’ll have access to upon logging into the Heart of Deimos. 

EDIT: We have also changed the Mastery Rank Prerequisite of the Helminth Segment to 8 (was 15).

That’s all for now!

Not really keen on reducing the rank prerequisite for obtaining the segment. I thought MR15 was completely fine, not too high and not too low. Besides, it would give lower rank players an incentive to raise their MR. 

As for nerfing some of the infused abilities, I'm neither for nor against. I agree that it's easier to nerf one thing than buff 100 other things. 

Overall, we will have to experiment to see what abilities match what frame. 

Now, unrelated to this, when will you do a balance pass to some of the unused mods, like the lower value IPS mods, Energy Channel, Weapon corrupted mods, and some of the warframe mods like Undying will and Provoked?

Looking forward to Heart of Deimos, right after I finish writing my maths exam. 🙂

[EtezinPilu]

now all the new players will (if they manage to get enough resources)will get all of the same trash habilites

thanks DE! really looking foward to the update, its not like MR8s read the forums anyway.

[Cubbage]

2 minutes ago, aligatorno said:

With all due respect Megan, this doesn't make any sense. 

With this change you'v made a completely 180 paradigm shift from what you've advertised at Tennocon. This system is with the current requirements no longer "made/indended" for experienced playets, it's only more accessible. That is quite a big difference in my opinion.

Allowing such early players to access this system will create resource sink which will most likely lead to a high level ammount of frustration for them. Due to the inexperience with the game's system, they will most likely make mistakes on wasting valuable resources on this without much gain, halting proper progression.

Not only that, but as some have already mentioned below, because they will be so limited in their choices, they will not experiment at all, they will just google the best ability/combination and that would be it. 

I get that you want as many people to have access to it, as the monetization will be even higher than with only veterans, but try to consider player experience and possible effects more.

 

I'll be real honest, Megan lying like this and just DE's lying in general is becoming more and more blatant as time goes on. Now of course I'm not saying Megan is doing this on purpose, both her and Reb are basically DE's scapegoats for getting away with S#&$ty decisions and backtracking, so that any justified backlash is quickly disregarded as a personal attack on these two. Overall that S#&$ is just really unfair for everyone involved.

[Danielw8]

43 minutes ago, (PS4)DidelphisV said:

How lame are you people? No inspiration whatsoever. You just immediately jump for damage buffs without even considering the alternatives. We’re getting so many good abilities, but you can’t process anything more than “hurr durr bigger numbers”

Meanwhile I’ll be using actual fun stuff like Ensnare on Atlas, and Condem on Hildryn.

I think most of people are talking about MR requirement and not damage buffs getting nerf

Also in my opinion endgame tennos should have specific content to do, because the game have a great early game, a very solid mid game, but in the late game you have nothing to do

Just saying a friend from dota2 played 100 hours of warframe with me , he is mr10, he have: mesa prime, kuva bramma, kuva nukor, energize maxed, guardian maxed, and more 100 hours means like 1 month of casual gameplay. He already quit and he actually doesnt understeand much about warframe, he cant even move properly, he doesnt understeand how corrosive works, how viral works, but is there ready to do everything

And if you are asking "for sure you carried him the entire videogame" the joke is for example in SS i did my runs alone with random people and he did runs with random people, that means people actually carry him

what im trying to say: Warframe its a very very good videogame, but doesnt have exclusive content. Doesnt matter if you have 200, 2000 or 10000 hours, you can get top tier gear very soon, and after that you are going to farm random stuff or build really bad gear for no reason..

At the end, i hope this new content have some good reward, call it a super good combo using off meta warframes or something making worth farm all warframes again, because doesnt feel great farm an entire week like crazy and get "meh" ability

Steel path its a very solid start, they should add more missions there like profit taker, exploiter, events, everything steel path, but rewards need a tweak, because so far at this moment the best reward  you can get is kuva paying resources booster and drop chance booster (80p) and actually almost the entire community agree with this: rivens/kuva are a terrible system, its just terrible

The game need content worth to grind, worth to keep playing the same content, if reward is high doesnt matter if hard or you need something to do it, you will do it because the reward is nice

For example railjack at this moment, you can lvl up your gear, everything, alone doing 4 mins gian point runs solo, or 2 mins with group. Rewards are meh: Relics, riven slivers, but the most important thing is affinity you not need a saryn in santuary to actually lvl up your gear, you can do it alone. Bad news, the only mission worth to do is gian point, and if you catch anomally you need to wait

If you have naramon, and affinity booster you can lvl up your melee from 0 to 30 in one run, and yes to reach 2 mins runs, you need a good railjack, good avionics, some practice, its not easy to reach, rewards are meh, but affinity is nice. So i can call it worth it

Fortuna: Kitguns, Moas, Kdrive are mediocre. Lockdown, repair you can buy it with pl and the only gear worth to farm in entire fortuna are propa and certus amp (this apply if you do eidolon hunts, if you not care hunts, ignore this) So actually at this moment why you are going to farm fortuna when 90% of rewards there are meh, some months ago at least catchmoon was stronger and people was farming reputation and resources at least for catchmoon, and generally people have 2 o 3 catchmoon, just for the variable (full crit, hybrid, low magazine etc) but right now are a joke

Arbitration:  After so many tweaks, arbitration is worth to do, you get very good mods, endo, kuva, decent arcanes, but in my opinion have a problem, you have like 30 rewards in one mission, its just too much, but at the end nothing can be perfect, i call it worth to do i recommend to everyone play arbitration