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39 minutes ago, rand0mname said:

Every Lua Vault have an easy way. In wall latching challenge you can just go back into present after hacking the first console. 

Ok, I'll give you that.  Though I still can't figure out how to do it with going back to the present.  However, it brings up a new problem.

Switching between times automatically warps your warframe to your new location in the new time.  Which would be an automatic failure.  So now all three vaults are seemingly impossible as operator only since the stipulation is that your warframe cannot leave the spawn room.

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1 минуту назад, (PS4)Lollybomb сказал:

Ok, I'll give you that.  Though I still can't figure out how to do it with going back to the present.  However, it brings up a new problem.

Switching between times automatically warps your warframe to your new location in the new time.  Which would be an automatic failure.  So now all three vaults are seemingly impossible as operator only since the stipulation is that your warframe cannot leave the spawn room.

Ohhh. Nice catch! I guess, if DE will ever add Lua spy Vaults to the list, they would indeed will have to find a workaround. Landing as Operator like in Umbra quest seems like the most obvious one.

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18 hours ago, TyrianMollusk said:

The right change here is to turn in statues for their fully-socketed endo reward.  This avoids punishing players for just doing upkeep on their inventory.

But you wanna punish players for collecting? I haven't turned in a single one in my entire WF career and i never will. No amount of wolf credits will change that.

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Please remove the “use 3 forma” challenge. It’s incredibly unfair to people who have their stuff forma’d to their liking or people like me who have a small stockpile of forma and don’t want to be forced to use it on arbitrary frames and weapons just to complete a challenge.

Same goes for the “Gild a zaw/kitgun”. 

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On 2019-05-10 at 9:54 AM, [DE]Bear said:

Complete 3 different K-Drive races in Orb Vallis 

Make K-Drive have better controls and we'll talk (Maybe I am a minority but I have difficulty doing grinds, maybe having the ability to have separate controls for k drive so like... the trick buttons are different than the fire buttons, k drive doesn't acknowledge having crouch as a toggle, etc?). Til then I don't want this at all.

 

 

On 2019-05-10 at 9:54 AM, [DE]Bear said:

10 Bounties’ reduced to ‘5 different Bounties’ 

How about change it to 16 bounty stages? That way I can decide if I want to just do the highest bounty or a bunch of the lowest level bounty? As is right now you're encouraged to spam the low level bounty, which isn't at all fun.

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I really would appreciate a method of gaining missed rewards from previous seasons, especially for this first one which had a rough implementation. I’m more than a little peeved I’m going to have to miss out on all the Nora Night stuff, Mods, and Wolf armor, emotes, syandana, etc because I had to deal with real life and couldn’t put multiple hours a week towards the Acts.

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I've seen it mentioned that Mod Transmutation is getting looked at once more. Can we expect this at roughly the same time as the Mod Transmutation Act is being introduced? It'd be nice to have more reasons to try Transmutation than just for the Act, and a very low chance of getting anything more than a Common Mod from 4 Rares.

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not a big change for me personally as the replay Option is kinda S#&$ty and doesn't stop the grind at all. I still won't be able to complete all challenges in one week and furthermore won't e able to complete the all challenges for one week and the previous week. The challenges still sound like chores to me...  Only interesting "challenge" is the one with the Spy mission with your operator. The rest is still no challenge and just repetetive. Would have expected more useful changes but this? C'mon.

I didn't touch warframe since finishing Nightwave Series 1 as it totally burnt out my interest and unfortunately those changes didn't change anything for me. Sad to see my favourite game go this way but hey... atleast you tried I guess.

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Posted (edited)

I assume the lack of mention of the gilding objective means it will remain in game, That's... unfortunate.

Edited by Sir-Swerving

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On 2019-05-10 at 4:53 PM, [DE]Bear said:

Feedback is welcomed!

I would say nightwave needs a cohesive story element. I get Nora narrating but on The Warriors she was keeping everyone in the know instead of just random chatter. Her lines could be adjusted to be timely and relevant to where you are in your weekly challenges. "Theres one dreamer out there missing out on a big reward because they forgot to finish 10 syndicate missions" so I dont realize that 14 minutes before the weekly flip. 

 

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On 2019-05-10 at 11:54 PM, [DE]Bear said:

 

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  • Complete a Spy mission using your Operator. Warframe cannot leave spawn room.

 

It means you are must be the host, isn't? It means you can't play the mission when join the game, for you will start near of the teammate that is already on the game.

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11 hours ago, MarrikBroom said:

Make K-Drive have better controls and we'll talk (Maybe I am a minority but I have difficulty doing grinds, maybe having the ability to have separate controls for k drive so like... the trick buttons are different than the fire buttons, k drive doesn't acknowledge having crouch as a toggle, etc?). Til then I don't want this at all.

To be honest, I'm not a big fan of the controls either. But most of the races require little to no "tricks" mostly some jumping here and there. Honestly, since they buffed standing from races, I went from having no built drives, to having them all mastered in just 2-3 weeks, or whatever it takes. Just doing races for standing every day.

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18 hours ago, rand0mname said:

I am sorta sad to see that “with friends” challenge is getting axed.

The way I see it is that people that have friends/clan mates that they want to run with... will already be doing so. Those who didn't, sure some made friends, but most just added people to their friend list and played the one time. It was a game with randoms with an extra step for many. So the only options I personally felt would work are the option they chose, or just simply make it "with at least one other player." ie don't require a friend or clanny, just require SOMEONE.

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Posted (edited)

Require SOMEONE is an easy restriction but if you want to create links between players, i'm not sure it will work.

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12 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

Please remove the “use 3 forma” challenge. It’s incredibly unfair to people who have their stuff forma’d to their liking or people like me who have a small stockpile of forma and don’t want to be forced to use it on arbitrary frames and weapons just to complete a challenge.

Same goes for the “Gild a zaw/kitgun”. 

This. A challenge to waste resources is asinine. That's how we got global warming.

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Ok the forma 3 times needs to absolutely disappear from existence since like the reward for nightwave gives us formas but you're forcing us to use it because of the challenge instead of being able to save forma for weapons i might want to build in the future its just an absolute waste of resources

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I heard hinty-hints that season 2 will focus on the Infestation 🤔

Now I'm really curious who this Emissary is/are and how this connects to the warframes / the Tenno themselves.

SHIP IT! XD

(kidding, polish it as long as you have to, no rush)

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Some Acts that could be interesting.

Complete n Faction Missions

Kill n Faction Enemies

Kill n specific enemies

Collect n amount of resource x

 

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23 hours ago, ToaSirian said:

do you know that transmutation is pretty expensive? 

Transmutation cores from Simaris negate the credit cost. Granted they cost 5000 standing per core, but it's something.

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On 2019-05-10 at 10:54 AM, [DE]Bear said:

Complete a Spy mission using your Operator. Warframe cannot leave spawn room.

So what happens on Uranus when you have to go underwater? Guess you're going to have to let our operators use Archwings now and K Decks.

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8 minutes ago, Zelmen said:

So what happens on Uranus when you have to go underwater? Guess you're going to have to let our operators use Archwings now and K Decks.

A fair question, but the answer is gonna be "Don't do that spy mission."

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3 minutes ago, Ham_Grenabe said:

A fair question, but the answer is gonna be "Don't do that spy mission."

Are you telling me not to Spy on Uranus? Game breaking... 😛

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Just now, Zelmen said:

Are you telling me not to Spy on Uranus? Game breaking... 😛

Walked right into that one, didn't I? Well played.

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9 minutes ago, Zelmen said:

Are you telling me not to Spy on Uranus? Game breaking... 😛

You telling me I can't do "Fish 6 Rare Fish in Plains of Eidolon" on Orb Vallis ?

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