--END--Rikutatis Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I know the prices of the rewards are subject to change from the dev build, but I also know DE's track record on making super grindy content, specially at launch. Rebbeca played the ground mission for approximately 8 minutes and got roughly 70-75 event points in the end. The two new weapons cost 2k and 3k respectively. The new simulacrum arena cost 5k. Stance forma cost 5k as well. The bronze common arcane cost 250 each (no clue if the more rare arcanes cost more, but I assume so). So just for a bronze arcane, to get 11 more of it (which is what you need to go from r3 to r5) that's 2.750. That's like 296 minutes worth of ground missions for 11 bronze arcanes based on what we saw on the stream. Sounds like the grind will be real lol. Hopefully they cut those prices by a LOT before the event goes live. Or give us a lot more points per mission. 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiga Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 That depends on how long the event runs for and what the arcanes everyone wants (grace, energize) are worth. I mean i expect it to be a grind but people have lives too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 And I remember Rebecca saying that balancing of prices is still ongoing but... Yeah, it wouldnt be the forums if we paid attention to such words. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrazyBeaTzu Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Duh. That's why I've been farming toroids and getting arcanes now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Dog Days reward pricing PTSD intensifies. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierlak Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kaotyke said: And I remember Rebecca saying that balancing of prices is still ongoing but... Yeah, it wouldnt be the forums if we paid attention to such words. They always say that. And still everything always shows up with prices that are FAR too high. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhapps Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, Kierlak said: They always say that. And still everything always shows up with prices that are FAR too high. far too high, and always the exact same prices as the dev build 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ozymandias-13- Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Have they mentioned if this event is one time or recurring, like ghouls? That could impact the intensity of the cost. Not that it justifies 5 hours for eleven copies of a common arcane either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 well, even if it is a grind, at least it'll give me something to do. I'll definitely run the event enough for the weapons but I'm not sure I'm gonna be running it to max out every arcane. there's only a few arcanes that I actually use anyway, and some of them are Magus ones, so don't apply to Scarlet Spear. I think the people who are arcane completionists will have a rough time, but for people who just use what they like, it shouldn't be too bad, hopefully. they want us to spend as much time as possible doing this event which they've been working hard on, so of course we'll be expected to grind for hundreds or thousands of points over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Host migration, connectivity, RNG, how long the operation will last, reward prices and how often it will return will determine the successful or utter failure of this operation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TONI__RIBEIRO Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, (XB1)YoungGunn82 said: Host migration, connectivity, RNG, how long the operation will last, reward prices and how often it will return will determine the successful or utter failure of this operation. Don't forget the ones that get to babysit the railJack... real fun stuff, if the prices are too high it's going to be a disaster. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) I'm not even going to do that 10 times for an arcane. But since there are some people who did operation plague star for 8 hours this event will be for them. Edited March 14, 2020 by Redfeather75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengxiaoju Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 remember dog days? lich? looks like event designer and game designer dont really play the game 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)l-p4p-I Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The grind will be real, and will hurt, hell yea. Whatever, personally I will only have to farm for the Grace set, so far I only have two of them, because I've played for +4years and RNGesus only gave me 1 grace from the Raids, and the other from NW. Oh, and for the new weapons as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, (PS4)l-p4p-I said: I will only have to farm for the Grace set, Host migration and connectivity will be a huge threat. That said if 11 bronze arcane= 296 min, a platinum will likely be 3x that.....For 1 set, you need 21. Do the math for a platinum r5?! #*!% that S#&$. Lol. I might do it for he glyph of whatever but that's gonna be about it. Rather grind, sell S#&$ for plat and buy them outright in trade-frame. Edited March 14, 2020 by (XB1)YoungGunn82 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--END--Rikutatis Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, (PS4)TONI__RIBEIRO said: Don't forget the ones that get to babysit the railJack... real fun stuff, if the prices are too high it's going to be a disaster. LOL yea, they briefly showed the player on turret duty and it looked so boring for the poor guy, compared to Megan inside the sentient ship fighting sentients. I'm gonna guess there'll be a lot more ground squads compared to railjack, not sure how they're gonna balance that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvisCaedo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) It's probably prices in progress, and maybe point gains as well (they claimed it would ramp up if you went long, I think?). But... Yes, I expect the prices to be pretty high in general to try to convince people to grind the HELL out of it, as the first new content in months. Extra pessimistically, I think that's why arcanes got changed to be 5 ranks instead of just rebalancing them normally: To use them as a carrot for grinding the hell out of the new event. Edited March 14, 2020 by OvisCaedo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)AllOrNothinDays Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 What did you expect? It's the reason arcanes were nerfed and grind increased to max them again. It's to bring people back to the game and part of the reason why I don't play it like I used to. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk1911 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, kengxiaoju said: remember dog days? lich? looks like event designer and game designer dont really play the game No one at DE really plays WF except on stream with developer mode on. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)FlameDivinity Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Kaotyke said: And I remember Rebecca saying that balancing of prices is still ongoing but... Yeah, it wouldnt be the forums if we paid attention to such words. They're just worried about it, as prior instances of DE admitting balancing of grind has turned out horribly, which causes players to expect the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844448 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 If you see closely (I just did), the 5 dots below are filled so if it's 2,000 points for an instant rank 5 energize or grace, I think it's still reasonable compared to eidolon slog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superiouz Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 See the pattern. Kuva lich grind Then Empyrian intrinsict and resources Now Ss It will be the worse grinds ( for now) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)l-p4p-I Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 hace 1 hora, (XB1)YoungGunn82 dijo: Host migration and connectivity will be a huge threat. That said if 11 bronze arcane= 296 min, a platinum will likely be 3x that.....For 1 set, you need 21. Do the math for a platinum r5?! #*!% that S#&$. Lol. I might do it for he glyph of whatever but that's gonna be about it. Rather grind, sell S#&$ for plat and buy them outright in trade-frame. Nah, I do not have problems with the grind. I'm short of plat, and people usually go crazy in trade chat, so I will be farming, Also I'll be hosting squads and my Internet connection does pretty well. No problems for me. Grace set is the last one i need so no worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, --END--Rikutatis said: I know the prices of the rewards are subject to change from the dev build, but I also know DE's track record on making super grindy content, specially at launch. Rebbeca played the ground mission for approximately 8 minutes and got roughly 70-75 event points in the end. The two new weapons cost 2k and 3k respectively. The new simulacrum arena cost 5k. Stance forma cost 5k as well. The bronze common arcane cost 250 each (no clue if the more rare arcanes cost more, but I assume so). So just for a bronze arcane, to get 11 more of it (which is what you need to go from r3 to r5) that's 2.750. That's like 296 minutes worth of ground missions for 11 bronze arcanes based on what we saw on the stream. Sounds like the grind will be real lol. Hopefully they cut those prices by a LOT before the event goes live. Or give us a lot more points per mission. Guardian. Energize. Velocity. Avenger. Grace. Strike. Fury. Those are some of my most used arcanes and I imagine that's the same for a lot of people. 296 minutes × 7 ÷ 60 I'm coming up with 34.5 hours of grind time and that's under the VERY generous, totally unreasonable assumption that the gold/silver/platinum arcanes do NOT cost more than 250. Keep in mind we dont know how long the event will last or how often it will return. It could be super rare and relatively short for all we know. And now would be a good time to remember that a lot of the post update arcanes are worse at rank 3 than they used to be. So a lot of time will in fact be spent "fixing" a problem DE created by deciding they couldnt just nerf/tweak existing rank 3 arcanes but that rank 5 arcanes needed to be a thing. 3 hours ago, Jarriaga said: Dog Days reward pricing PTSD intensifies. Yup 3 hours ago, Kierlak said: They always say that. And still everything always shows up with prices that are FAR too high. Railjack resource costs. Requiem relic farm. Dog days. Initial crafting requirements for arcanes.... 3 hours ago, mrhapps said: far too high, and always the exact same prices as the dev build This. "Hurr durr but it's a dev build" well the last several times I've seen numbers on a dev build it's been fairly accurate. 3 hours ago, (XB1)YoungGunn82 said: Host migration, connectivity, RNG, how long the operation will last, reward prices and how often it will return will determine the successful or utter failure of this operation. Several arcanes are worse at rank 3 post update than they were before. So if you want to fix the problem DE artificially caused... I wonder how much of this game mode I'm gonna have to play. Edited March 14, 2020 by (XB1)ECCHO SIERRA 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aadi880 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 iirc, didn't DE say this "event" will last forever? I may be wrong on that, but it would make sense to for the possibility of players who missed the event. The mission itself is endless. And from the looks of it, you need to complete Erra, which in turn needs the sacrifice completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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