Vlada91 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 If she whose in prisoners all this time. Then how she com in my ship from the second dream quest and hold the operator??? Then she whose back on Lua planet and get back in prisoners or what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarlockk Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 You are not the only one confused here, although i did not even think about the imprisoned part lol. I was more concerned with Orokin, Hunhow and sentient relationship lotus has. I am super confused about Lotus now. Who is our space mom? Orokin? Sentient? I just hope we get continuation of the quest in January, not a fond of cliff hangers, especially the ones like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanille Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Vlada91 said: If she whose in prisoners all this time. Then how she com in my ship from the second dream quest and hold the operator??? Then she whose back on Lua planet and get back in prisoners or what??? She wasn't imprisoned in the pod, the theories are she was imprisoned/controled by Natah's sentient body, the helmet being part of it. The moment Ballas cuts the connectors on her helmet, Margulis regains her conscience, freed from Natah. In the second dream cutscene Lotus still has all those connectors on the back of her helmet, might be why. She visited you as Natah/Lotus with Margulis' body. But this is all speculation after all, this cliffhanger DE threw at us, it's consuming ussssss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalec Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 vor 5 Minuten schrieb Zarlockk: You are not the only one confused here, although i did not even think about the imprisoned part lol. I was more concerned with Orokin, Hunhow and sentient relationship lotus has. I am super confused about Lotus now. Who is our space mom? Orokin? Sentient? I just hope we get continuation of the quest in January, not a fond of cliff hangers, especially the ones like this She's a Bleach MC, she is everything at once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukinu_u Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 What is "imprisoned" isn't Lotus, but Margulis inside her own body, controlled by Lotus, this is what Ballas refer to. So, Lotus isn't imprisoned anywhere, she just stay here. However, I don't know why Ballas didn't come earlier and why did he found Lotus now, and also how did we found her that easy. It hardly make sense, but I guess it's because it's a prologue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarlockk Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, lukinu_u said: What is "imprisoned" isn't Lotus, but Margulis inside her own body, controlled by Lotus, this is what Ballas refer to. So, Lotus isn't imprisoned anywhere, she just stay here. However, I don't know why Ballas didn't come earlier and why did he found Lotus now, and also how did we found her that easy. It hardly make sense, but I guess it's because it's a prologue... But Hunhow refers to Lotus/Natah as doughter. Thus either Hunhow is also "imprisoned" or someone messed up the script. This is too weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Everything is explained by the power of Plot holes and "it was all a dream". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I think you guys forget one of the key traits of sentients, the fact that they can separate pieces of themselves to do their bidding. I'm sue Lotus just sent a piece of her original body to help us in TSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Zarlockk said: But Hunhow refers to Lotus/Natah as doughter. Thus either Hunhow is also "imprisoned" or someone messed up the script. This is too weird. Well she IS both Natah and Marghulis, Natah is Hunhow's daughter, Marghulis is Ballas's lover. And Natah is the one that's in control, It's pretty straight forward actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoKeNnEtHoO Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I think Lotus is a persona that was created from both Margulis and Natah. The body is Margulis' but the consciousness is Natah's. It is basically transference. Whether this was done willingly or by force, we don't know for now. As such, Lotus does not refer to herself as Margulis until Ballas did his hand thing. Everything or at least the operator parts also happened in real time because Lotus is indeed reported missing by Ordis after the quest and we do get the helmet she drops which could be a piece of Natah just as how War was a piece of Hunhow and Hunhow was gone once it's broken just as Ballas' hand thing likely did to the Lotus helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintaro Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Or Ballas is a little delusional and is trying to make Lotus become her new Margulis. Lotus has proven times she isn't Margulis due not having memory of Rell and used the "dreams of tenno" to create her image. But we won't know till the new quest so either way i am excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrielColtan Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kiwinille said: She wasn't imprisoned in the pod, the theories are she was imprisoned/controled by Natah's sentient body, the helmet being part of it. The moment Ballas cuts the connectors on her helmet, Margulis regains her conscience, freed from Natah. In the second dream cutscene Lotus still has all those connectors on the back of her helmet, might be why. She visited you as Natah/Lotus with Margulis' body. But this is all speculation after all, this cliffhanger DE threw at us, it's consuming ussssss. I don't think its the helmet. I think a sentient is merely able to have a symbiotic relationship in the same body or are also able to shape shift, as Hunhow also had a human form. The helmet is inanimate, leading to further doubts on that. Edited December 27, 2017 by UrielColtan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Wait, ballas is still alive? I thought it was all a dream or a vision? How is he alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrielColtan Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) Lotus is gone, so hardly a mere dream. Immortality apparently means immortality. Teshin is also still alive, so its not hard to consider. Edited December 27, 2017 by UrielColtan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlada91 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) Maybe we can see all what happened in new qust and not get more confused... everything become more and more complicated. Edited December 27, 2017 by Vlada91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 13 hours ago, Hypernaut1 said: Wait, ballas is still alive? I thought it was all a dream or a vision? How is he alive? It was such a dream that you are with fake Lotus for the last week, with all her glitchy glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Someone had a theory that this is a dream or trick being played by the MitW. It all starts from that pad that looks out into space, and I think it's linked to MitW because it appeared right after I finished Chains of Harrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I don´t understand why Ordis took her part. Really WHYYYYYYYY? I was so damn happy that she would be quite, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhundis Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I always thought that Natah was the sentient re creation of Margulas by Ballas due to his grief. Now he's figured out a way to return her memories and thus bring back his lover. Aka Margulas = Lotus = Natah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR1D3 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I'm partial to the helmet is a shard of the sentient theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTeensie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 She pulled a Luke Skywalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 16 hours ago, Hypernaut1 said: Wait, ballas is still alive? I thought it was all a dream or a vision? How is he alive? If i had to guess, he found a Yuvan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_mtv_xXx Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 It was all actually a force projection and Lotus has now died peacefully while watching the sunset on a random planet for no reason at all. THE END Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rand0mname Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 12 минут назад, xXx_mtv_xXx сказал: It was all actually a force projection and Lotus has now died peacefully while watching the sunset on a random planet for no reason at all. THE END It will all make sence in books and comics. /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotriusPyrelus Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 17 hours ago, rapt0rman said: Well she IS both Natah and Marghulis, Sauce, plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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