Hexerin Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Personally, my ideal/dream would be that you just put a single lens in your Operator loadout and that's it. All affinity you gain regardless of source, goes through that lens. Additionally, the addition of a 5th tier lens (above Lua lenses) that grants a clean 5% conversion rate. Realistically, I'm not expecting a complete redesign of the system. Honestly, I don't really mind the current system anyways. It works, and isn't super convoluted or anything. My only real complaint is that you can't remove a lens from equipment, so once you've added a lens to something that piece of equipment permanently has a lens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jaggerwanderer Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Some actual Lens to start with once the Focus school opens up. Back then, it took me five months before I got my hands on some Lens. Cetus Bounties was the only way to get them. And RNG sure hate me. It was a slow crawl just to get different Lens. So each piece of gear should be able to switch to the basic Focus Len with no cost. Keep the bounty rewards and basic Len as item just so we can upgrade them through the Foundry. This is so DE doesn't have to make so many changes. Less change means less chance for bugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzarugi Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) No damned cap on daily focus which you can only bypass by farming tridolons. I'm already maxed in my focus across all schools so I doubt I'll have to do it again, but lemme tell you something: I absolutely didn't enjoy spending days following very strict team comps and being extremely precise with our timings to maximize our tridolon captures every night. Edited September 17, 2023 by Pizzarugi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 less caps and for Lenses to be less annoying to use. Syndicate affiliation got made less annoying, so there's hope. i'm not sure what way i'd like the affiliation to work though. as it is once you're later into the game you can start just sticking random Lenses onto your stuff and as you use stuff you'll get some and that lets you spend less time mucking around with affiliation that way. a single global affiliation would be a bit mixed, though at the same time if the cap was less restrictive then maybe that wouldn't really be a problem then. you'd be able to get points for whoever as you please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Feels like they would focus on... focus acquisition for newer players since you don't tend to get much focus after you've gotten the operator. An increase to daily focus and being able to remove lens would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I'd just like for Somatic Fibers to not be such a pain to get. But I don't really see any issues with the system that warrant major changes. If players want to be efficient they can set up for stealth farming or Eidolon grinding. While everyone else can farm it casually with some lenses and running ESO, Zariman bounties, or Circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3512 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The biggest bottleneck for lens acquisition and maximum focus gain is still the Eidolon lens. this is an issue that needs to be solved. Removing lens without destroying them would be nice and a good QOL change would be separating focus rewards from killing thrax and void angels from your equipped focus school into universal focus you can spend anywhere. It'd also be nice if your operator could convert 100% of affinity from amp kills to focus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Considering i have multimillion excess focus points in each school, not so much. More interested in the pet rework, sick of panzer vulpha for everything that we have currently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenus. Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I feel like they will mostly just increase the % gained. Maybe some changes to how focus lens work. I remember farming sanctuary onslaught with mirage/saryn to gain focus.. wasn't much fun but I've maxed the schools I wanted to max and waybond abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I really couldnt care less since I'm done with focus and been so for a long long time. So unless they also add something to the focus shops the changes will have zero meaning to me and be of no interest whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Hellsteeth30 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Disregarding the usual "I have it all, so **** you lower scum" people, better lens percentages, stick a bit more in AOE Onslaught too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdframe_Prime Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Well, here's the things I predict, not the things I hope for, because I know how DE thinks about these systems: 1. Lenses will be easier to attain and we'll finally get the option to remove them from frames without destroying them or replacing them with another. 2. Lenses will convert more Affinity into Focus, allowing us to reach our daily cap faster and not have to use meta Affinity farming methods to max it quickly, or spend ages in Sanctuary Onslaught. That, or Convergence will convert more Affinity for every level of Lens, making the exploitation of Convergence orbs relevant again. 3. Daily cap will not change. We will still spend exactly as many days doing the initial grind, because DE are all about making their daily grinds quicker or easier for the casual player, but not about making the overall grind shorter. 4. At best we will get a 'catch up' feature where Focus has both a Daily and a Weekly cap and we can farm up to the weekly cap on the weekend. Basically every day that we miss in the week can be made up for the day after, all the way until the Weekly reset, where we start all over again. Missing a whole week will still mean a whole week of no progress, but missing six days will not mean missing a whole week, if you see the difference. Making the daily grind shorter for players that haven't hit their cap is something DE have shown they're willing to do, so having better conversion rates of Affinity to Focus, that's a no-brainer change. But DE have also shown that they build their grind systems to take months, if not years (say hello to attaining Archon Shards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo3nixz Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The focus grind I'm long time done since old one whe had. Add more to focus shop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)jaggerwanderer Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 10 hours ago, ReddyDisco said: Considering i have multimillion excess focus points in each school, not so much. More interested in the pet rework, sick of panzer vulpha for everything that we have currently. It's like the good old days where Fetch didn't exist and everyone use Sentientals just for Vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raarsi Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Maybe an alternative to eidolon shards for the last rank on the waybound passives so I don't have to remember the master's thesis that is the guide for eidolon hunts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Spider_Enigma Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 just remove lenses and let us get focus for our curent school like we do in the ten zero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Lord ChibiVR Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Do we actually need one? I mean I got tons of focus from Duviri so why rework it at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, (XBOX)Upl0rdYT said: Do we actually need one? I mean I got tons of focus from Duviri so why rework it at this point. Push newer players along. "Reworking" won't translate to anything except "gain faster in some fashion". I can see why many people are looking into it, but I can't personally attest to the changes because I've been done with Focus for a very long time. I was more interested in removing MK1 gear, and they backtracked that to just removing them as choices from the tutorial, so eh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 scrap the lenses system altogether and make affinity convert to focus on a 1:1 basis. that would be ideal, but probably too convenient to actually happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Anise_ Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) focus isn't really hard to farm, smeeta + affinity buff big lens, you can cap in a few rounds of ESO maybe they remove the caps ? or just set the gains to be like 5x ? steamline the lens ranks ? or even better idea maybe they remove the stupid lense system altogether and just make it passive gains for whatever school you have active ? also turn off the Eidolon farming requirement for unlocking the waybound nodes Edited September 18, 2023 by _Anise_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturalchemical Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) They either need to remove the daily cap or rework eidolons to be farmable at all times. Starting a bounty should force night time. Eidolons should still be reworked and expanded on to not make it so repetitive. Edited September 22, 2023 by naturalchemical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silligoose Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I'm hoping DE doesn't mess it up too much. It's lofty, but I'm an optimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 A thing they could do to let newer players catch up quicker and make it simpler overall is to just skip lenses then rework it the following way. -Daily cap still there, but the focus would be universal and can be spent in any school. -Your currently active school gains focus unrelated to the daily cap at a rate of X% of affinity gained by your frame, operator and weapons in a missions. There could potentially be a cap on how much you can gain per school aswell, but you'd be able to cap it for each school each day by swapping schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiga Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Focus is already extremely easy to obtain after the Circuit was added. I don't get why they'd be making it even easier when maxed players have little to spend it on- the rewards in the represent store are pretty minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 My guess is they want to make focus lenses more relevant , as zariman and duviri kinda made them obsolete. Will likely be that you can get similar focus from focus orbs in regular gameplay that you get on average from duviri (maybe a little less). I doubt i will affect me or most of the players that already have their focus maxed , it will probably be better for the newer players or ones that haven't bothered with focus so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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