The Tenno are ungodly rich, why can't we just use our riches to solve problems?

[Tuxie]

Kahl missing an eye? Let's buy him another one so he'll have depth perception. Legs is missing his.. Well, legs? Buy him another one, arms too, why not get his entire body back? Void, we could probably buy everyone in Fortuna their freedoms, why can't we actually do things to improve the lives of the people who we consider to be allies? Most Tenno probably have more money than Parvos at this point, why is our only option to sell violence as mercenaries as Ruk have called us?

[Hobie-wan]

I mean if you're gonna think about that, then you can pull out the old nugget of wondering why there's a vendor in town loaded with equipment that's better than what you have when you start the game, but they make you go out and earn money to buy said equipment so you can save the town that's definitely going to be destroyed unless you defeat the big bad for them. Or the potion shop.

"Look mate, I've got 3 hit points left, give me the damned health potion or that horde of ogres is going to bust down the city gates and beat you like a piñata and use your entrails as Christmas garland."

And so on.

Edited January 1 by Hobie-wan

[NorthernDarkIceSoul]

35 minutes ago, Tuxie said:

Kahl missing an eye? Let's buy him another one so he'll have depth perception. Legs is missing his.. Well, legs? Buy him another one, arms too, why not get his entire body back? Void, we could probably buy everyone in Fortuna their freedoms, why can't we actually do things to improve the lives of the people who we consider to be allies? Most Tenno probably have more money than Parvos at this point, why is our only option to sell violence as mercenaries as Ruk have called us?

we don't care

[trst]

There's at least four problems here. We don't know how many Tenno currently exist in canon, we don't know if our wealth is supposed to be canon, we don't know the actual value of such things, and you're assuming we'd be allowed to purchase said things in the first place (sure we can buy Debt Bonds but we're not buying their freedom).

But it's really just a case of you shouldn't be taking every gameplay interaction as a canonical part of the game's story.

[CosoMalvadoNG]

People who look for problems where there are none.

[(PSN)robotwars7]

48 minutes ago, Tuxie said:

Kahl missing an eye? Let's buy him another one so he'll have depth perception. Legs is missing his.. Well, legs? Buy him another one, arms too, why not get his entire body back? Void, we could probably buy everyone in Fortuna their freedoms, why can't we actually do things to improve the lives of the people who we consider to be allies? Most Tenno probably have more money than Parvos at this point, why is our only option to sell violence as mercenaries as Ruk have called us?

to be honest, Karl doesn't seem like he even needs both eyes, he's probably so used to having just the one.

Legs does deserve to be given his limbs back, but his bodily repossession was also the reason Eudico chose to take up arms again and reform Solaris United, and he indirectly serves as a reminder of why the Solaris fight. he should definitely get some arms though, 

you say give everyone in Fortuna their freedom, but this poses a problem; if there's no Solaris Workforce, what will the Corus do? they'll just replace them with more indentured servants, there's a nearly unlimited amount of people in debt or who are poor and looking to better their lives, and the Corpus will just prey on them, then take them to Fortuna.

the solution is also right above their heads post New War; that massive piece of Orokin Gold Filigree (which totally ruins the aesthetic of Fortuna btw) must be worth a fortune, certainly enough to buy freedom for the majority of the Solaris. but again, the Taxmen will simply find other desperate souls, because that's what the Corpus do.

we DO improve the lives of people: every Grineer or Corpus killed is one less person to prey on the innocent: we ensure the Grineer never have the power to break the Unum's wall and destroy Cetus, and we help pay off the debts of Solaris workers and rescue them when they get caught by the taxmen. we even free them on board Corpus Ships.

anyway, the fact is that it's not the Tenno's job to be a philanthropist, it's their job to keep the powerful factions in check by culling them every so often and trying to ensure one side doesn't become a menace to the entire system at once. we do what we can to help people by doing what we are best at; the gratuitous application of violence through the use of void based powers and archaic weaponry.

 

 

[taiiat]

if there were lots and lots of us in universe plus were highly wealthy in universe, what reason would Tenno have to be taking these random Contracts across the Solar System to do this or that in exchange for some pay.

[Pakaku]

We're mercenaries for hire, it's why most players don't play old content unless there's something new in it for us

[Xzorn]

Been playing Skyrim Thieves Guild recently?

[L3512]

1 hour ago, trst said:

you're assuming we'd be allowed to purchase said things in the first place (sure we can buy Debt Bonds but we're not buying their freedom).

Bonds are issued by governments and corporations when they want to raise money. By buying a bond, you're giving the issuer a loan, and they agree to pay you back the face value of the loan on a specific date, and to pay you periodic interest payments along the way, usually twice a year.

Solaris should be paying us interest.

[ominumi]

You would think having a huge Arsenal plus Void magic, the Tenno would just rule over the entire Sol System then dictate what each citizen needs to do , how to do it, and when to do it. And here we are doing odd jobs for "Honor."

[0_The_F00l]

Well , inflation is a *@##$ and guns are cheap.

We don't really know what the value of the credits are that would be required for actual change.

Not to mention that the Tenno are mostly in it for themselves or for whoever is manipulating them for the time.

[rawr1254]

We're gonna go back to 1999 soon chill 

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[Rixuel]

"The Tenno are ungodly rich"

Corpus Faction: *laugh in credits*

[Ace-Bounty-Hunter]

Because, just like real life, you can't solve problems by throwing money at it.

[ReddyDisco]

1 hour ago, Ace-Bounty-Hunter said:

Because, just like real life, you can't solve problems by throwing money at it.

Not all but a lot of my troubles would be gone with some more money

[(PSN)slightconfuzzled]

Its an interesting question. Though its also the type that tends to result in more questions than answers as the answers raise more questions. That, and we haven't necessarily been given the context to our wealth or power as individuals or as a potential faction. As far as canonically. Like are we talking one Tenno, or multiple? How many? What is game mechanic and what is story? How many times has Profit Taker been defeated actually? Some players can beat it in less than 3 minutes, over and over. Is that accurate? 

There are also social and political factors to consider. Many people struggling are born into systems with attachments, familial, social, and with biases, preconceptions, illusions. Situation can be bad, but it can take time and experience to realise how bad... and many people have agency they wish to express, and people and things they care for, they are in it together with. The idea that the situation can improve, if they have hope. A saviour figure coming along with wealth and power can be nice... but they might also be suspicious, you may not necessarily be able to trust them, what are their motives, and importantly? What about other considerations and consequences, as far as how they interact with other larger powerful entities, such as ruling classes who hold together institutions and infrastructure you may not necessarily agree with, but are born in, and live in. Tenno actions may draw attention and conflict to many who are ill equipped to deal with it and do not want it. 

Also why throw such resources at an individual, as opposed to changing and improving the infrastructure and upper management. Also, that in itself carries quite a lot of weight. Are we implementing and essentially endorsing might is right? Or are we evening the playing field? The more questions we ask, the more questions are raised. To lean on real life a little though, world hunger, starvation is a real issue. For some more than others. The problems and solutions are less about lack of food resources, but more political and social, to do with infrastructure, transport, ideologies, misconceptions, and tied together with some other overlapping issues. Wealth and power can have roles to play, and often do, but its not one sided, since there are some that benefit disproportionately from different angles. To go back to the question, do the Tenno just force issues with wealth and power, or try to use multiple tactics. Does the Tenno even have the understanding and capacity to undertake such tactics and strategies. Who is the Tenno? Are they more of a blank vague self insert taking the lead from older characters around them, and prioritising more obvious, distinct threats, of a physical nature and leaving such issues to others?

Warframe is generally more of a light action space fantasy RPG, addressing various sci fi ideas and themes, to get too political or nitty gritty with world building and lore. Certain topics may never be addressed on that level and their may not even be too much thought given to them creatively, either outside player speculation. 

[Legatus_Rhino]

10 hours ago, Tuxie said:

Kahl missing an eye? Let's buy him another one so he'll have depth perception. Legs is missing his.. Well, legs? Buy him another one, arms too, why not get his entire body back? Void, we could probably buy everyone in Fortuna their freedoms, why can't we actually do things to improve the lives of the people who we consider to be allies? Most Tenno probably have more money than Parvos at this point, why is our only option to sell violence as mercenaries as Ruk have called us?

Maybe, we are not Himmel Sama... We humans are as corrupt as demons. 

[(XBOX)C11H22O11]

6 hours ago, ominumi said:

You would think having a huge Arsenal plus Void magic, the Tenno would just rule over the entire Sol System then dictate what each citizen needs to do , how to do it, and when to do it. And here we are doing odd jobs for "Honor."

Taking over and holding together large empires is not a good idea

[(PSN)Sentiel]

What do you mean rich? I can barely afford to craft Forma. 😭

[Corvid]

45 minutes ago, (XBOX)C11H22O11 said:

Taking over and holding together large empires is not a good idea

Yeah, the Origin system already had an empire ruled by an immortal, technologically and militarily dominant caste.

It didn't end well.

[TARINunit9]

16 hours ago, Tuxie said:

Most Tenno probably have more money than Parvos at this point, why is our only option to sell violence as mercenaries as Ruk have called us?

The Corpus control the credits, that's part of the reason they're virtually worthless. It's a weird doublethink: Nef Anyo could tap a few buttons on his keyboard and wipe your 20million account to zero, but at the same time he will literally enslave people over a mere 11thousand

I do like the thing the devs added with Ticker where you can indeed spend some of your millions of credits to pay off NPC debts. Not any of the named NPCs of course, but it's still a neat touch

Oh, and this one specifically:

16 hours ago, Tuxie said:

Kahl missing an eye? Let's buy him another one so he'll have depth perception.

Kahl's eye wasn't just missing, it's not some random wound we are too stingy to heal. He had a Grineer-issue a cybernetic eye in his original debut. It's something he already got treatment before in the past. On top of that We absolutely can buy him an even newer eye if you wish

[Venyxos]

we're only rich because the infinite copies of ourselves pool resources to address infinite realities... we're both infinitely rich and infinitely poor

if it helps you sleep at night, you should imagine the infinite copies of you who've done this type of charity; the infinite copies of you in which that charity was unnecessary (for whatever reason); or even the infinite copies of you which never made contact with the Void, and thus, remain the most remote versions of you - those who have none of your Tenno concerns

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This is why you may edit your appearance at will without changing who you are - you're so infinite, you have infinite human forms (within the game's customization capacity, lol)

[OniDax]

Because it's a game (albeit a quite mediocre one imo). 

Edited January 10 by OniDax