feelmepain Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 So,today i watched the videos about raids and....yeah pretty sad i started to play WF when plains was there (never knew raid was in WF) IT was "REPLACED" by the eidolon hunting for new player like me and probally other new players never knew raid was in WF it has been 8 months since the 'TEMPORALLY" remove of the raid and the community is dying i guess i understand how DE wants more players to play WF but to hurt players like that while trying to improve WF is not FUN brb. i hope after the fourtuna update we get to feel raids PS: sorry for any typo, and i watch many vid saying DE is killing WF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, feelmepain said: remove of the raid and the community is dying i guess There was only a small number actively playing Trials (<5%) and the upkeep (Bugfixes, 8 player problems etc) wasn't worth the trouble for DE. We don't have definite numbers. Only DE does. Biggest problem is that since PoE there wasn't really big content to hook players for a longer period Edited October 29, 2018 by GnarlsDarkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5H4DE Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Trust me you didn't miss anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 If you were watching a lot of videos saying WF is dying then chances are you saw a lot of videos from content creators. Best advice there is to not take them seriously. As for the Raids, well they were a buggy mess. Yes it sucks they were removed but the constant upkeep wasn't worth their time. They could come back in a new form in the future, but it's hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, feelmepain said: community is dying i guess Never before have I seen such an educated guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad4youLT Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, DeMonkey said: Never before have I seen such an educated guess. technicaly he is correct if you look at warframe steam player stats but not because of raid removal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobWasHere Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 "WF Dying" is about the content drought that even devs claim to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenariousNex Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Don't tell this guy about Dark Sector PvP and clan planet ownership and solar rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, DeMonkey said: Never before have I seen such an educated guess. And never before was this phrase ever said. @feelmepain, you should change your name to "John Snow". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RX-3DR Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, feelmepain said: it has been 8 months since the 'TEMPORALLY" remove of the raid and the community is dying i guess i understand how DE wants more players to play WF but to hurt players like that while trying to improve WF is not FUN brb. PS: sorry for any typo, and i watch many vid saying DE is killing WF? Well, are they killing Warframe, or are they improving Warframe? You're not really being consistent on this. Removing a mostly isolated and ignored game mode may hurt that small group of people playing it but it doesn't kill the community, nor those it kill the game. Calm down and stop letting people feed you weird ideas that the game is completely ruined because of one person's opinion on a relatively insignificant issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyneris Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I could totally go for some 40man raids 😕 Dreams are too big..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, bad4youLT said: technicaly he is correct if you look at warframe steam player stats but not because of raid removal Technically!? That's fine, there is no death there at all. Realm Royale is death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autongnosis Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 il y a 5 minutes, feelmepain a dit : PS: sorry for any typo, and i watch many vid saying DE is killing WF? I can warch many videos saying the Earth is flat, doesn't make it any less false. While i do miss the old Raids, make no mistake: they were a MESS. Constant bugs, a nightmare for P2P hosting... I'd love for some form of them to come back. But Law of Retribution was quite simply a campfest spamming hard CC everywhere and standing on buttons. The fun one, the Jordas Verdict, was the buggiest hell ever, and overcomplicated as #*!%. The system was a good one, the execution not so much. It also required a huge amount of upkeep. Tbh I'm enjoying Eidolon hunting way more than i ever did Raids. Now, if they could mesh the two concepts together and release a trial with new design principles taken from Eidolon fights, i'd be all for it. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--F--NerevarCM Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Just now, bad4youLT said: technicaly he is correct if you look at warframe steam player stats but not because of raid removal Warframe still is one of the most played games on steam. An dying game was Lawbreakers, with 10 players peak per day, or H1Z1 with player numbers so low that you can't even fill a match. The reduced amount of players is simply the result of a content drought. Like many droughts we had in Warframe history. Remember the drought before War Within? Warframe had 40k players at peak. Lower than we have now. And the game isn't dead. I hear "Warframe is dying" since 2013 when the game had 10k players max. Edited October 29, 2018 by -SDM-NerevarCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurrrningBoop Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 минут назад, feelmepain сказал: I watch many vid saying DE is killing WF? Here is your problem OP, just as your thread title, these videos are clickbait and hardly ever bring constructive arguments to support their claims. About the time you start thinking for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Apoleon_amarr Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 months? Holy fug i really have no life, i remember as if it was yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Scrub8247 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 DE never said "Temprorarily".....they said "They wasn't coming back"....big difference...too many problems with it, not enough people playing it.....I didn't care for the raids, glad they're gone...taking up space for other things de can implement...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atsia Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, (XB1)T0PP HATT said: DE never said "Temprorarily".....they said "They wasn't coming back"....big difference...too many problems with it, not enough people playing it.....I didn't care for the raids, glad they're gone...taking up space for other things de can implement...... Raids are coming back, DE just said they'll be working on a raid style appropriate for WF. Which still could take years tov happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhrekr Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, feelmepain said: it has been 8 months since the 'TEMPORALLY" remove of the raid and the community is dying i guess 1 Hahahaha. Goodness me "the community is dying you guess". Fun fact: the number of players currently playing Warframe is (roughly) higher than it EVER was while raids were a thing. 32 minutes ago, feelmepain said: i watch many vid saying DE is killing WF? 2 Yes. You watch many vids made by people who are wrong. Some whiny moaners have been complaining that DE is killing the game ever since 2013. Fortunately the game hasn't noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, -SDM-NerevarCM said: I hear "Warframe is dying" since 2013 when the game had 10k players max. they were right back then, WF died real hard. people need to realize this and stop starting to play it, it's dead. DE also has to realize this game is dead for 5 years now and stop working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, (XB1)T0PP HATT said: DE never said "Temprorarily".....they said "They wasn't coming back"....big difference...too many problems with it, not enough people playing it.....I didn't care for the raids, glad they're gone...taking up space for other things de can implement...… They did say temporarily. They never said they weren't coming back. Though I do agree that in their original form they were taking up space. Hope they come back, but heavily reworked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iman00700 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) I wasted 400k cred(i was mr4 and poor)to craft those keys and before doing them they were removed I want my money back Edited October 29, 2018 by iman00700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Every time they changed something in the rest of the game, raids broke :-P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluff-E-Kitty Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 the raids super sucked. Not to mention the arch-wing one was glitched and often was not able to be completed. The puzzle mechanic of a raid did not translate over well to warframe, or at lest for warframe players. If you want a good raid game, play destiny 2. they do PvP pretty well too, assuning you can aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheCoconut Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I like the idea of raids: challenging group content that requires coordination and cooperation. Teamwork. I can't say that the raids we had accomplished this very well, but I like that the attempt was made. A lot of content can be done as a group, I'd even argue it encourages it, but the most "cooperation" you get is by how much you contribute to mission on an individual scale. It basically boils down to you killing things, and killing them quickly. It doesn't require coordination. I think that this is fine, and probably the way it should be for the majority of the content. But I still hope that DE can revisit the idea of raids and make them fit in with the rest of the game. Eidolons are a nice start, but I'd love to seem them take it further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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