(NSW)ToppestShrek Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 The whole twist gets spoiled if a new player catches you go into operator mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songsofanightingale Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Yeeaaaaah. . . the operators have since become something of an "It was his sled" note in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Euphoria_ Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I remember seeing an operator before my Second Dream quest and asking “how do you eject the child?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Considering all the time that has passed I think we're starting to reach "It was his sled" territory honestly. It's been slowly becoming an open secret for a while now, unavoidable in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer-. Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I rarely pop the little one if I'm with total new players, it brings up to many questions WOAH Dude WHAT WAS THAT! Operators are losing the surprise factor to players which is a pity, when I first started playing I never saw an Operator until I did the Second Dream quest which I did fairly early on, it was a thrilling awesome experience of wow what is this, it's so cool, with tingles on the back of my neck watching the Quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 46 minutes ago, songsofanightingale said: Yeeaaaaah. . . the operators have since become something of an "It was his sled" note in the story. "It's his sled. It was his sled from when he was a kid. There, I just saved you two long, boobless hours." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Slayer-. said: Operators are losing the surprise factor to players which is a pity, when I first started playing I never saw an Operator until I did the Second Dream quest which I did fairly early on, it was a thrilling awesome experience of wow what is this, it's so cool, with tingles on the back of my neck watching the Quest. The devs have flat-out given up on maintaining that surprise. They make a token effort to keep it behind spoiler tags, but in some devstreams they just bite the bullet and talk about it. Second Dream was five long years ago; the devs know that all the people who are ever going to get that big beautiful reveal, already saw it five years ago. Later generations don't always experience the story the same way as the first generation, and the devs aren't wasting energy trying to fight that fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 If you play fast enough as operator new players usually doesnt even notice it, the illusion works better with umbra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer-. Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, TARINunit9 said: The devs have flat-out given up on maintaining that surprise. They make a token effort to keep it behind spoiler tags, but in some devstreams they just bite the bullet and talk about it. Second Dream was five long years ago; the devs know that all the people who are ever going to get that big beautiful reveal, already saw it five years ago. Later generations don't always experience the story the same way as the first generation, and the devs aren't wasting energy trying to fight that fact Yeah it's a pity because that was one awesome surprise moment when it happened to me in the quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_R_o_g_u_e_ Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 2021-03-17 at 1:22 PM, (NSW)ToppestShrek said: The whole twist gets spoiled if a new player catches you go into operator mode. This was true, a few years ago. But now DE have operator cosmetics in nightwave, so we no longer have to worry about spoiling it, because DE spoiled it for everyone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggyswe Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I never use the operator in low level missions unless everyone is like mr 10 or higher due to that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soy77 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Tbh newer players never know what's happening on the screen. I never knew what warframes my squadmates was using, i didn't know what abilities they cast. I vaguely remembered that some random did went to kid mode before i played second dream, iirc i probably dismissed it as his warframe's ability or something. Warframe is one of those games with too many fantasy objects, out of this world skills and movements, which make it pretty confusing to watch for rookies. So unless you're doing extra long missions on one spot -like defense, I don't think most rookies would even catch it. But yeah, it's his sled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More-L Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Generally when I play games with randoms and see some special power that is unique and different I want to know more about it/aquire it for myself. It does tie in to the story, but as long as the story isn't explained it's closer to a hint of a spoiler imo, unless a new player knows the lore and about the Zariman ship. The second dream was a huge deal for someone like me because I had put hundreds of hours in to game without the operator existing/knowing how it all worked. For a new player, operators are already part of the story, and I would have my curiosity peaked if I was new and saw another player do something unique, enticing me to unlock that power (even if in reality it isn't that special.) I'd say it works more for the power fantasy appeal of aquiring multiple powers you can use in different ways for new players, though I do generally try avoid using OP mode for low MR players I don't actively hinder myself because of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I try to not use the operator. But in the end it doesn't even matter. The players who were playing from day one got their minds blown. But new players don't have to wait too long to get to the SD quest. So it's less significant for them probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 if you are quick enough the new players with their yet to be developed peripheral vision, stars in their eyes and slow reflexes will be confused for a second but they wont realize what they saw. they will think it was just more visual pollution. P.S. i wonder how many actually watched citizen kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetosayajin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Yep. It should be invisible to people that didn't do the quest but it's not, so not a problem apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiyadan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 vor 3 Stunden schrieb (NSW)ToppestShrek: The whole twist gets spoiled if a new player catches you go into operator mode. more or less there are even into cutsences new players have to watch that basicly are spoilers seeing an operator does not make you understand what happend in the quest or the whole story behind it only that there is a mechanik in the game that let you summon a humanoid thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 hours ago, _Euphoria_ said: I remember seeing an operator before my Second Dream quest and asking “how do you eject the child?” .... When a man and a woman love each other very very much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)TehChubbyDugan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Two things: One, the story is completely screwed for new players because half of it is locked behind content that isn't available in the game, and what is here is missing parts and out of order. You get spoiled on sentients as soon as you step out onto the plains, and you get spoiled on a bunch of stuff as soon as you hit up Jupiter and see the Amalgams. Secondly, they literally advertise operator cosmetics in the in-game market and through Nightwave. They can't be considered spoilers anymore if the game itself is spoiling them as soon as you load into your orbiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 They already spoiled operators in the game launcher. I gave up trying to guard it long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 IDK the first time I saw it I thought it was some weird power Their frame had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Pretty much. I've been shepherding a new player for the last few weeks, and trying to not make him play on public is quite a challenge. Though, I do like to not use my operator in missions while accompanying him. It adds a fun layer of tension. Wish DE would just blur them out for pre SD players. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayrack Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 People tout new age technology how it defeats censorship and borders, and somebody believes new Warframe players can be protected from plot spoilers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Soy77 said: Tbh newer players never know what's happening on the screen. This. Although I did have a friend who was accustomed to fast paced FPS catch me do it once, but was more like "How did you just teleport across the map?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MqToasty Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 IMO, the biggest spoilers are the Operator Cosmetic Nightwave rewards. Given that Nightwave is a reliable source of potatoes and aura mods for new players, I pored over the rewards when I first started. Not surprisingly, I was quite confused with how that ear cosmetic would fit on my Excalibur when it clicked that there must be another "me" further in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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